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Post replacement function given to uploaders within first hour of upload?

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I've had it happen more times than I can count where I uploaded an image from one source, only to discover very shortly after that there is a better image available at another source and/or post. I don't really like doing double uploads like that so close to each other in time, so that usually leaves me with two options.

Options

1. Upload the better version and flag the inferior version

I'll do that one if needed, and usually only if the image dimensions are bigger than the other, but it's a bit awkward having your mistake being shown for all of Danbooru to see for 3 whole days until it finally gets deleted.

2. Don't upload the better version

If the images are the same dimensions, I'll usually just bite the bullet and swallow that mistake, but it always grinds my gears.

Considerations

The above is fine for contributors, since they get to upload pretty much what they want, but there would need to be restrictions for non-contributors, so that they don't pull some bait-and-switch. Maybe the approver of an image could have that function in the first hour after approval?

Anyways, thoughts?

We have the image replacement thread but what you're proposing is bending around the rules of the thread regarding uploads of the same image from different sources. I'm not sure if we should make that thread obsolete.

tapnek said:

We have the image replacement thread but what you're proposing is bending around the rules of the thread regarding uploads of the same image from different sources.

What I proposed wasn't so much a bending of the rules, as it would be more of a mulligan.

I mean, think of it this way. What if the tags were set at post creation and could never be changed. Some people would take more of an effort at tagging the upload thoroughly before submitting, but who ever gets that right 100% of the time? That's why we have post edit merging for changes within the hour, since mistakes happen or tags are forgotten or thought of later.

I'm not sure if we should make that thread obsolete.

I don't believe it would make that thread obsolete. The limitations on the proposed functionality would be set pretty high, i.e. within the hour and by contributors/approvers. Anything after that would have to follow normal procedures.

I recently ran into a situation where someone uploaded a lower file size version of the same image from the same source (Pixiv).

I'm not sure what the best solution is - we could manually post it, but when I mess up, I'd like the option to replace it myself if it's updated from the source in a timely fashion.

Maybe the idea isn't too bad. Here's my take on the limitations.

  • Approver or unlimited uploads privilege required. (Maybe a separate privilege could be made?)
  • Post can only be replaced an hour after the upload. After that, only mods and up can replace it.
  • You only have one, maybe two chances at replacing it. After that, it's up to the mods+.

tapnek said:

Maybe the idea isn't too bad. Here's my take on the limitations.

  • Approver or unlimited uploads privilege required. (Maybe a separate privilege could be made?)
  • Post can only be replaced an hour after the upload. After that, only mods and up can replace it.
  • You only have one, maybe two chances at replacing it. After that, it's up to the mods+.

Given that even approvers messed things up in the past, I doubt that'll work.

With how abusable and seemingly randomly handed out unrestricted upload permisions already are it'd potentially make things worse. And for those stuck going through approvals, if we upload at the right time it can take under 10 minutes to get an approval. Once it's approved it becomes just as invisible to furdther quality checks as any other post - it could be replaced with anything.

Regardless of some of the conjectures in this thread, it's really unknown how such a system would be abused, if at all.

My opinion would be to have a trial period of maybe a couple months, then come back and reexamine the issue.

I don't believe that there would be abuse with such tight restrictions, but we would know for sure after such a trial period had concluded. If needed, the system as it stands can always be rolled back into place at any time.

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