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Long coat and overcoat

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Wikipedia and Cambridge definitions of overcoat basically says it's a long and heavy coat worn over clothes and that it's usually used in winter.

How the overcoat tag is being used afaik:

If we agree on a definition (preferably the wikipedia's) of overcoat I could garden this tag and then make overcoat imply long coat and maybe even winter coat, or maybe aliasing overcoat to long coat.

On the other hand, I think long coat imply coat, unless someone bring a valid counterexample, which I think it's unlikely this time, but I still didn't deep check how this tag is being used yet, I'll make the BUR for this one anyway.

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ion288 said:

I still dont understand what separates those from jackets. Most online sources suggest coats must reach the hipps. Which those dont seem to do.

Edit: Yeah I also think they're jackets, idk why I wrote coat. People using this tag like this is why I'm asking before making the implication BUR for overcoat, there's always the possibility that a few posts make an implication impossible. I don't think that's the case with long coat though, even without a wiki, the definition is pretty straightforward and if people are using it to tag jackets or anything that isn't a coat, then it's just mistagging and a gardening would be needed before asking for an implication.

Long coat might sound pleonastic, since coats are long by default, at least longer than jackets, but there's always stuff like post #5212785, which the tag can be applied. Also, if overcoat implies coat, then long coat should too.

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As I see it, the distinguishing features of a long coat over the broader coat is the garment's material and intended use, which are both difficult to determine from a post. I therefore don't think the distinction is necessary and feel we should alias long coat into coat.

A similar issue exists with overcoat. If the tag is intended for coats then it should also be aliased into it. If it's intended for a particular variety of business jacket then that's fine, but it needs to have its wiki rewritten and some gardening done to establish this standard.

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