Make (Fate) Categories Great Again

There seems to be an endemic problem with Fate characters getting copyright tags for almost any series they appeared in, even when it's clear that a work is for a particular work, or even when it's not

for example, post #5691304 has seven copyright tags for a work involving a single character, in an unclear context
another example are characters like enkidu_(fate) getting tagged both fate/grand order and fate/strange fake
or jack_the_ripper_(fate/apocrypha) being tagged both fate/apocrypha and fate/grand order (perhaps a rename for this character is in order, unless we want to rename more Fate characters by what series they originally came in, which i personally think is foolish)

I think it would be best to Fate copyrights based on what the work most represents, and if it's not clear that it belongs to any particular work(excluding rare cases where it really is multiple fate copyrights represented in a work), it should get just fate_(series) and that's all

the point in all of this is that Fate Copyright tags, as they currently are, are completely useless, because people who are looking at fate/strange fake aren't going to want to see something like post #3743688 just because Enkidu originates from that copyright

I assume that Fate isn't the only one with this problem, but it the one I'm aware of with this egregious of a problem regarding copyright tags, so if there are other series with this problem, maybe they can be brought up here

TL;DR Fate taggers are once again, the worst

This has got to be the 10th time this has come up. If it's Touhou people will adamantly refuse to use the copy tags, and if it's Fate people won't stop using the copy tags.

If you find posts with an excessive amount of copy tags, and I'm talking in general, not just Fate, then please do remove all of the uneeded ones. Or add them if they're missing. Same as with anything else.

Pokeball99 said:

for example, post #5691304 has seven copyright tags for a work involving a single character, in an unclear context

This is the correct way of tagging as the character appears in multiple copyrights, though the background implies the Extra franchise. The picture being ambiguous, regardless of its commentary, won't pollute search results: topic #20385.

because people who are looking at fate/strange fake aren't going to want to see something like post #3743688 just because Enkidu originates from that copyright.

Indeed, this here is the problem. One of my worst experiences as a lurker was searching for Stay Night and CCC and getting FGO and other results.

Now, this is mostly done by mistake, users tag scripting or mintagging by copying tags from other posts and copying wiki tags. I messaged tag scripters and they stopped. I do gardening here and there, but it isn't something I bother to do thoroughly.

Individual said:

This is the correct way of tagging as the character appears in multiple copyrights, though the background implies the Extra franchise. The picture being ambiguous, regardless of its commentary, won't pollute search results: topic #20385.

talking to others in the discord, it was in fact a reference to a scene in Fate/Stay Night, not Fate/Extra, though i did think that at first too

Individual said:

This is the correct way of tagging as the character appears in multiple copyrights, though the background implies the Extra franchise. The picture being ambiguous, regardless of its commentary, won't pollute search results: topic #20385.

You were the only person in that thread to suggest using every copy tag possible if you couldn't tell which to use, everyone else said the opposite. It's easy to say "it won't pollute searches" until we have a thousand images of each character showing up under every single copyright just because it had no context, or because uploaders got lazy and just used them all because they aren't familiar enough with the franchise to know which to use.

If anything, if a Fate post is ambiguous, it should get the Touhou treatment and not be tagged with anything but Fate (series). So that when someone searches Fate/Stay Night they actually get Fate/Stay Night and not just every Saber post that isn't tagged Fate/Grand Order.

blindVigil said:

So that when someone searches Fate/Stay Night they actually get Fate/Stay Night and not just every Saber post that isn't tagged Fate/Grand Order.

What I mean by polluting search results is that you have some ambiguous posts under fate/stay night and more specific posts under fate/stay_night copytags:2.

I briefly mentioned this in topic #23423.

Individual said:

This is the correct way of tagging as the character appears in multiple copyrights, though the background implies the Extra franchise. The picture being ambiguous, regardless of its commentary, won't pollute search results: topic #20385.

magcolo said:

Currently out of the 1029 posts under Fate/strange Fake, 891 of them are Enkidu. I suppose that’s because he debuted there? But at this point it’s just flooding the tag. The protagonists of the series, Ayaka and Richard combined has 31 posts, and none of the other fsf exclusive characters passes 50 posts.

There’s also this crazy habit of tagging every single copyright despite context.

Doubt that's what you'd consider "won't pollute search results". I literally had to subtract Enkidu and Gilgamesh from my FSF search to get anything interesting.