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BUR #42816 has been rejected.
mass update ocean -underwater -> water
I noticed a very large number of ocean posts are not also tagged with water. I was originally going to propose an implication, but I realized there are ocean + underwater posts, which shouldn’t be tagged with water. The logic of the mass update makes sense to me, unless we want to leave water as a tag for posts with smaller amounts of water in them than an ocean.
WRS said:
Assumptive mass updates like this are usually a bad idea, especially when you have posts like the one below being tagged as ocean and water is not supposed to be used for images like this.
I’m confused though, wouldn’t my update skip posts like this? That’s why I put the -underwater qualifier in there.
There are some posts in the tag that I wouldn't necessarily say contain a water ocean such as post #7589814
In this case I did miss that you added the underwater qualifier, however, an update like this only works when you're sure that all 100K+ results either aren't wrongly tagged or not tagged properly. Do you know for a fact that there isn't an untagged underwater post among those search results, or someone stretching the definition of ocean? What about post #8829435 for example?
WRS said:
In this case I did miss that you added the underwater qualifier, however, an update like this only works when you're sure that all 100K+ results either aren't wrongly tagged or not tagged properly. Do you know for a fact that there isn't an untagged underwater post among those search results, or someone stretching the definition of ocean? What about post #8829435 for example?
You’re right, I don’t. So, what should the proper course of action be then? just tag posts manually that fit the definitions of ocean and water?
Yes, something like this should be handled manually. There aren't too many cases where you can perform such a huge mass update and be sure that 100% of the changes that will be made with the update will be accurate, this isn't one of them. For a tag with 100K posts, manual verification of each change is definitely needed.
It'd be a different story if ocean were to imply water, which there would still be verification required but to remove it from posts where neither fit.
WRS said:
Yes, something like this should be handled manually. There aren't too many cases where you can perform such a huge mass update and be sure that 100% of the changes that will be made with the update will be accurate, this isn't one of them. For a tag with 100K posts, manual verification of each change is definitely needed.
It'd be a different story if ocean were to imply water, which there would still be verification required but to remove it from posts where neither fit.
Very well. Thanks for discussing this with me, it’s a learning experience about how to properly manage stuff here. That said, should the BUR go on or is there a way to cancel it?
When I search for water, I am not looking for post #9467713. Also, there's always the potential for an ocean to be depicted as something other than water - the meme phrase "is this real life or is this just fanta sea" comes to mind.
The bulk update request #42816 (forum #362446) has been rejected by @nonamethanks.
