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It occurred to me that this tag currently is applied equally to both character with "normal" long hair and ones with ridiculously long hair like Rider. I was wondering, should we have a separate tag (possibly with an implication to long_hair) for the latter, and if so what should be used?
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I never add the long_hair tag unless it's really long. Which means I never add it, since I haven't yet uploaded girls with really long hair, or seen images of girls with really long hair which were untagged as such. I always label short hair, however.
I don't want to bother labeling something that's normal. For example, we label girls with dark skin "dark_skin" and girls with very white skin "pale," but we don't have a "normal_skin_tone" tag.
I say keep tagging long haired girls with long_hair. The idea is that you can combine searches with it, notably long_hair sex.
Long hair isn't the only standard for women today, women normally have either long hair (yet still much shorter than the average length of stylized hair in most game_cg) or a kind of middle length hair, like post #263873, post #263721, post #231899, post #262264. Some may think it looks like short hair, others may think it's long hair, but it is what it is, middle length, it shouldn't be tagged as it is the norm. Ideally -short_hair -long_hair should work.
So, yes, a Rider tier hair tag is in order. I'd perhaps go with the intuitive very_long_hair. huge_hair makes me think of giant afros.
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I agree that there needs to be a very_long_hair tag, as for what determines when to use it perhaps use hair that extends past the buttocks or hair that reaches down to or past the knees.
Personally I don't believe in a middle length for hair. I just use a clearcut definition that for women if it isn't past the shoulders it's short hair and if it is past then it is long hair (though I don't tag it long_hair unless it is mostly past the shoulder blades). There doesn't always have to be a middle ground. As for what is the norm to define middle length, I think that's somewhat of a poor choice, since norms are defined by the culture they come from. It may be the norm for you, but it could just as well not be for others.
That's wrong, there always has to be a middle ground, by your way of thinking half an inch may tell the difference between short hair and long hair.
For example, you'd call post #263176 long hair, even though it doesn't look like what you'd expect to be long hair, in fact, someone tagged it as short hair, you can see what they were thinking, "if it's not long hair it has to be short hair", wrong.
What I'm thinking should be the right way to do it like this: If you're not sure it's short hair or long hair don't tag it as either. -long_hair -short_hair. Problem solved.
Not everything has to have a middle ground, dry ice skips going to a liquid and goes directly to a gas under normal conditions, etc.
I was going to say more, maybe it's something about my adversarial streak making me miss out on some of what you wrote my first reading, but rereading I don't have any issue with the if you don't know if it is long hair or short hair don't tag it either. That's what I do anyway. I guess in practice I do have a middle ground, which is simply what I don't consider long hair or short hair, but what I define as that doesn't fully agree with what you consider it *shrug* oh well.
As a side note I'd have tagged post #263176 as short_hair and 2 out of the 4 in your first post as short_hair. I'd say the definition I use isn't quite what I wrote when I consider short hair, but more or less it's around the shoulder.
