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  • ID: 1051714
  • Uploader: iori98 »
  • Date: over 13 years ago
  • Approver: Not One Of Us »
  • Size: 903 KB .png (600x2700) »
  • Source: pixiv.net/artworks/23561877 »
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hakurei reimu, cirno, shameimaru aya, reisen udongein inaba, kazami yuuka, and 2 more (touhou) drawn by potato_pot

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  • 風見幽香に対する考察37「博麗霊夢の予想と会場の予想」

    倍率は以前にアンケートでお聞きした回答を参考にしました。1回目はほとんどが風見幽香の勝利か引き分けになったんですが、「引き分け」という項目を削ってお聞きしたところ、アンケートは真っ二つに分かれました。話の展開にもよったんでしょうが、ちょっとビックリ。1話→pixiv #15325297 » 38話→pixiv #23661119 »

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    Cheese Ninja
    over 13 years ago
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    I wonder if all the bets will pay out at that rate? I assume the odds were longer when Reimu put in her bet, and will pay out at the rate from when she placed her bet.

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    TubercularOx
    over 13 years ago
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    Full translation of the spell card rules

    @Cheese Ninja: If she doesn't get her original payout, she's probably regretting that speech of hers.

    Also, why do I feel like it didn't take much convincing to get Tewi to help out at the betting booth?

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    Touhou learner
    over 13 years ago
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    i know yuuka will get through this without a scratch, even if she loses. But what about team rumia? someone prepare an ICU for 5 entity

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    Neo X
    over 13 years ago
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    Touhou_learner said:
    i know yuuka will get through this without a scratch, even if she loses. But what about team rumia? someone prepare an ICU for 5 entity

    She's a flower youkai, not a celestial. I really don't think she gonna leave without a scratch. There is a diffrence between high attack and high defense...

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    NailStar
    over 13 years ago
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    They'll pretty much have to find an opening to attack, then use that chance to coordinate together to combo her arse to oblivion, Tales style.

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    Touhou learner
    over 13 years ago
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    Neo_X said:
    She's a flower youkai, not a celestial. I really don't think she gonna leave without a scratch. There is a diffrence between high attack and high defense...

    Lets just say that even if they wounded yuuka, we cannot forget how hardcore she is. And this yuuka, even though just a youkai, is on the same level of destruction as flandre and mima though she rarely comes in close to her prey, so there goes your theory, i'll give you credit for it. Someone prepare an ICU and 5 coffins

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    Neo X
    over 13 years ago
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    Touhou_learner said:
    Lets just say that even if they wounded yuuka, we cannot forget how hardcore she is. And this yuuka, even though just a youkai, is on the same level of destruction as flandre and mima though she rarely comes in close to her prey, so there goes your theory, i'll give you credit for it. Someone prepare an ICU and 5 coffins

    That doesn't prove much, besides, being that overconfident can lead to a pretty big loss.

    May I remind you that a certain Ice fairy is powerful enough to defeat okku? that kind of power is pretty much on par Flandres, if I do say so myself.

    Yuuka may underestimate her opponents, but I doubt Rumia will underestimate her, I'm certain that she has a few tricks up her sleeves.

    Wriggle is really motivated from the fact that she'll win yuuka's heart if they win, so she has blind love on her side.

    The other two... not sure about them, hopefully Rumia will motivate them by then.

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    TubercularOx
    over 13 years ago
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    So the artist drew post #1053669 all the way back in June of 2010. It makes me wonder how long he's been planning this comic. I don't see any headstones in the future. Except maybe for Wriggle, who seems to attract them.

    (Admittedly, that one has a title spoofing Gurren Lagann: Believe in you whom eye believe in instead of believe in me who believes in you.)

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    Touhou learner
    over 13 years ago
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    Neo_X said:
    That doesn't prove much, besides, being that overconfident can lead to a pretty big loss.

    May I remind you that a certain Ice fairy is powerful enough to defeat okku? that kind of power is pretty much on par Flandres, if I do say so myself.

    Yuuka may underestimate her opponents, but I doubt Rumia will underestimate her, I'm certain that she has a few tricks up her sleeves.

    Wriggle is really motivated from the fact that she'll win yuuka's heart if they win, so she has blind love on her side.

    The other two... not sure about them, hopefully Rumia will motivate them by then.

    But it didn't prove anything for their case either, Rumia's basically cooked up, Wriggle's in masoschitic mode and so on, I still cannot say they won't die trying. So just a preposition for Yuuka, teach them the very light things, you can teach them anyway you want provided that they live through, if you want blood, don't spill my mystia, yousei, wriggle and cirno's blood, spill Rumia's instead :D

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    Touhou learner
    over 13 years ago
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    And truth be told, I prefer team cirno (except rumia) to yuuka, i don't favoritise but because I know how powerful yuuka is and how much my favorites had to struggle to survive. So I only wished that Rumia should not have dragged them to their impending death

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    Neo X
    over 13 years ago
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    Touhou_learner said:
    But it didn't prove anything for their case either, Rumia's basically cooked up...

    Ah, but you forget that Rumia's plan was carefully thought out from the beginning! There's no doubt that she has already calculated almost every outcome. With sheer numbers and cunning, there's a high chance that Team 9 will probably defeat the overpowered plant!

    Touhou_learner said:
    ... So I only wished that Rumia should not have dragged them to their impending death

    That is if they lose, and that's a big if!

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    HT Rock
    over 13 years ago
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    Reimu should've kept her big mouth shut. She's going to be locked into the lower odds. Unless she also bets the over/under on how long it takes Team 9 to beat Yuuka or how many members of Team 9 make it and is right, she's not going to make nearly as much money as she was before.

    Of course, this is assuming that "everything Reimu has" is a non-zero number.

    Teruyo's gonna make out like a bandit though, regardless of the result. Going from NEET to Nouveau Rich, baby!

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    Touhou learner
    over 13 years ago
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    That is if they lose, and that's a big if!

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    But what if Rumia's plan was to win by having cirno and the rest martyred? Then she maybe strike from behind at the exhausted yuuka? Yea, Rumia's being cunning all right, at the cost of team cirno. Then we'll have a rematch of Rumia vs team cirno (provided Yuuka has yet to kill them) and Yuuka.

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    Neo X
    over 13 years ago
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    Touhou_learner said:

    That is if they lose, and that's a big if!

    But what if Rumia's plan was to win by having cirno and the rest martyred? Then she maybe strike from behind at the exhausted yuuka? Yea, Rumia's being cunning all right, at the cost of team cirno. Then we'll have a rematch of Rumia vs team cirno (provided Yuuka has yet to kill them) and Yuuka.

    ...There was nothing in the comic that suggested a martyr!

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    Deathmatcher
    over 13 years ago
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    My expectations in this fight are the typical:
    Plot armor > The Five wins, thanks to Cirno.

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    Touhou learner
    over 13 years ago
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    Neo_X said:
    But what if Rumia's plan was to win by having cirno and the rest martyred? Then she maybe strike from behind at the exhausted yuuka? Yea, Rumia's being cunning all right, at the cost of team cirno. Then we'll have a rematch of Rumia vs team cirno (provided Yuuka has yet to kill them) and Yuuka.

    ...There was nothing in the comic that suggested a martyr!
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    And there's nothing that suggests Rumia wouldn't do it, you know how cunning she was in the comic. If you so desperately wish that team cirno somehow wins without a scratch and its that it was yuuka's plan to let them win.

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    Neo X
    over 13 years ago
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    Touhou_learner said:

    And there's nothing that suggests Rumia wouldn't do it, you know how cunning she was in the comic. If you so desperately wish that team cirno somehow wins without a scratch and its that it was yuuka's plan to let them win.

    If you thing that the only way to beat Yuuka was to sacrifice her teammates, then you are very foolish my friend. And I didn't say that none of them would leave unscathed, and I highly doubt she's that clever, or at least as clever as Rumia in this comic. She's mostly raw power, Yukari she aint!

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    Touhou learner
    over 13 years ago
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    Neo_X said:
    If you thing that the only way to beat Yuuka was to sacrifice her teammates, then you are very foolish my friend. And I didn't say that none of them would leave unscathed, and I highly doubt she's that clever, or at least as clever as Rumia in this comic. She's mostly raw power, Yukari she aint!

    Lets be clear here: i have the ideology that both team cirno and yuuka should both benefit without one being destroyed or so. Whats yours?

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    Touhou learner
    over 13 years ago
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    And to top it off, anyone can put on an arrogant face and make it seem like they are clever, the real clever people don't do that.

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    Neo X
    over 13 years ago
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    Touhou_learner said:
    Lets be clear here: i have the ideology that both team cirno and yuuka should both benefit without one being destroyed or so. Whats yours?

    Well Yuuka wants companionship, and Rumia wants people to stop calling her and her friends weak, so it's possible that they both can get what they get, but not after they both beat the crud out of eachother.

    And I know what your going to say, no I really don't thin that Rumia's team is going to die. Like Reimu said, the spellcard system allows the weak to beat the strong, for instance, Cirno has canonically beaten both Okku once, and Marisa twice! If you consider flower view as well, Mystia is just as tough(But not as brave). If the term, "Wriggle Kick" has any hold, wriggle might have a "Sucker punch" advantage (or masochist immunity, whatever floats your boat). I've always seen Daiyousei as a Ninja maid, or a elite former fairy maid, with her kunai danmaku, and teleporting (if anybody ever remembers!) or maybe healer, I dunno. Rumia can manipulate darkness, that can aid nocturnal creatures, like wriggle and mystia, and in this comic, a cunning gal! Which personally, is refreshing pace from the general "waha" portrayal.

    I know that Yuuka is one of the most powerful person in gensoukyo, but I don't believe she is unstoppable as everyone says, even if it is against team (9).

    But that does make a good excuse to make Chuck Norris jokes about her!

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    Touhou learner
    over 13 years ago
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    Neo_X said:
    Well Yuuka wants companionship, and Rumia wants people to stop calling her and her friends weak, so it's possible that they both can get what they get, but not after they both beat the crud out of eachother.

    And I know what your going to say, no I really don't thin that Rumia's team is going to die. Like Reimu said, the spellcard system allows the weak to beat the strong, for instance, Cirno has canonically beaten both Okku once, and Marisa twice! If you consider flower view as well, Mystia is just as tough(But not as brave). If the term, "Wriggle Kick" has any hold, wriggle might have a "Sucker punch" advantage (or masochist immunity, whatever floats your boat). I've always seen Daiyousei as a Ninja maid, or a elite former fairy maid, with her kunai danmaku, and teleporting (if anybody ever remembers!) or maybe healer, I dunno. Rumia can manipulate darkness, that can aid nocturnal creatures, like wriggle and mystia, and in this comic, a cunning gal! Which personally, is refreshing pace from the general "waha" portrayal.

    I know that Yuuka is one of the most powerful person in gensoukyo, but I don't believe she is unstoppable as everyone says, even if it is against team (9).

    But that does make a good excuse to make Chuck Norris jokes about her!

    very true, you do have a point. There was another pool which crosses touhou with bomberman. Yuuka as we know was strong and dominated Wriggle in the first few posts, but she never cross the line as to destroy Wriggle's existence. However, despite the power of yuuka, she still lost to Wriggle as Wriggle was more hyperactive. Yes i don't like to see Yuuka lose BUT, Wriggle requested that the loser shall teach the winner how to make better danmaku! i am fine with it this way because it does not damage both parties and this shows how much Wriggle actually loves Yuuka, because wriggle wish to be on yuuka's level that i find them a romantic couple. Back to this pool, I'm fine with whatever result there is, provided that this does not make yuuka look weak, Rumia don't get anymore cocky (because her face makes me feel like punching it) and it follows the pool's flow of logic and story.

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    Neo X
    over 13 years ago
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    Touhou_learner said:
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    What can I say, Chado makes great fight doujinshis, (although Wriggle was trolling her, as payback from all the bullying, so there was no indication of 'love' there). And a battle isn't really interesting if it's one-sided, so I agree with you there. Although I feel the exact opposite for Rumia, I'm really loving that sneaky little bastard!

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    Blossop
    over 13 years ago
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    Gensokyo may do things differently, but here the amount of payout is already on the ticket when you purchase it.

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    Eientei's deluxe outdoor monitor
    Don't the spell card rules say that the use of one's full abilities is denied?
    In other words, the strong must have a handicap.
    Hi-YAH!
    Gack!
    If they can just stay inside their own arena, even those children stand a good chance of winning.
    More than anything else, that's what my intuition as the Hakurei Miko is saying.
    It might get rough?
    At this point, around half of the people are expecting The Five to win!
    The preliminary results!
    -That youkai can easily cause incidents -That humans can easily resolve incidents -That use of one's full abilities is to be denied -That nothing is superior to beauty and thought
    Ladies and gentlemen, for today's betting on the match between Kazami Yuuka and Rumia's Five,
    Rumia Cirno Wriggle Mystia Daiyousei
    Al... Almost everyone was betting on Kazami Yuuka in yesterday's results, and yet...
    That was made clear by the odds.
    Houraisan Kaguya
    This match,
    These words of Hakurei Reimu were broadcast from the announcer's stand all over the grounds.
    I'd like to announce:
    Kazami Yuuka
    Buy your dreams
    Wh... What's this!?
    It passed through the minds of all who heard her words, but even as it did, a sense of excitement began to pervade the assembly, bringing with it a curious kind of hope...
    "No way"
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