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  • ID: 1820453
  • Uploader: Lunatic6 »
  • Date: almost 11 years ago
  • Size: 300 KB .jpg (700x979) »
  • Source: pixiv.net/artworks/46699973 »
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yamato, musashi, and kiyoshimo (kantai collection) drawn by sakazaki_freddy

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  • 【艦これ】史実で艦これ39【漫画4枚+イラスト4枚】

    参考資料などは反省会以降ニコニコ静画の方にてなるべく毎回記述しておりますのでそちら参考にしてください■赤城さんpixiv #44310876 »

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    Lunatic6
    almost 11 years ago
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    A single 46cm (18.1 inch) 45 cal. naval gun from the Yamato-class weighs a 162.4 tons with a firing range of 45,960 yards compared to Yuugumo-class 12.7 (5 inch) 50 cal. 3rd Year Type Naval gun which weigh 4.18 tons and has a firing range of 20,100 yards.

    Of course, Yamato's triple-gun turret weighs 2,774 tons which exceeded the maximum displacement of a destroyer (the Yuugumo-class battle displacement is 2,520 tons).

    Updated by Lunatic6 almost 11 years ago

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    GweAnakJakarta
    almost 11 years ago
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    Why do you need to worry about earth's curvature in the middle of the sea?

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    OOZ662
    almost 11 years ago
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    GweAnakJakarta said:

    Why do you need to worry about earth's curvature in the middle of the sea?

    If the seas were flat, the Earth wouldn't be anywhere near round.

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    NWSiaCB
    almost 11 years ago
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    Lunatic6 said:

    A single 41cm (18.1 inch) 45 cal. naval gun from the Yamato-class weighs a 162.tons with a firing range of 45,960 yards compared to Yuugumo-class 12.7 (5 inch) 50 cal. 3rd Year Type Naval gun which weigh 4.18 tons and has a firing range of 20,100 yards.

    Of course, Yamato's triple-gun turret weighs 2,774 tons which exceeded the maximum displacement of a destroyer (the Yuugumo-class battle displacement is 2,520 tons).

    Ummm... The 41 cm cannon was on the Nagato-class. The Yamato-class had a 46 cm cannon that weighed 147 tons.

    Anyway, this strip shows the general reason why Japanese battleships tended to be useless at the "long distance sniping" role they were designed to take for reasons already explained.

    They were trying to hit targets hypothetically as far as 46km away, but their actual effective range was half that, at best. Simply put, it was impossible to actually accurately hit a target when they were relying upon optical range-finding and manual targeting calculations. By the time they were done playing "telephone" relaying the guesswork of how far and fast the enemy ships were going, and the math nerds in the calculation room were done calculating, the turrets had been aimed, the shells fired, and the shells actually traveled the 40 km (through wind conditions completely unknown to the people in the calculation room), then even if most of the math being plugged into the calculations weren't rounded-off guesswork, and they actually could have hit where the ship was going, it had already taken a couple minutes between the sighting and the actual shell landing. As with the Battle Off Samar, a destroyer could simply turn, and evade everything the battleships could try to dish out.

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    T34-38
    almost 11 years ago
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    What Musashi is saying is something like a sniper's way to shot a target.

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    MMaestro
    almost 11 years ago
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    T34/38 said:

    What Musashi is saying is something like a sniper's way to shot a target.

    Because it is.

    Snipers simply don't get that in-depth because sniper rifles can't hit targets outside the range of 10km (yet?), at which point you DO need to start including things like the Earth's curvature.

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    Lunatic6
    almost 11 years ago
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    NWSiaCB said:

    Ummm... The 41 cm cannon was on the Nagato-class. The Yamato-class had a 46 cm cannon that weighed 147 tonnes.

    Sorry, that was just a typo... and 147.3 tonnes is 162.4 tons.

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    GweAnakJakarta
    almost 11 years ago
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    OOZ662 said:

    If the seas were flat, the Earth wouldn't be anywhere near round.

    good point.

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    seikenshin
    almost 7 years ago
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    NWSiaCB said:

    Ummm... The 41 cm cannon was on the Nagato-class. The Yamato-class had a 46 cm cannon that weighed 147 tons.

    Technically the Yamato-class' guns were CALLED 41cm guns during the war to keep their actual firepower a secret.

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    If you want to handle 46cm guns
    Hi! Today is Kiyoshimo’s turn! Today, Yamato-neesama and Musashi will be giving special training to become a battleship!
    Aw right!!
    You also need to study for it...
    What is this person talking about ?
    Yamato, hold it steady
    How should I fire this ?
    This is very heavy!
    Eek eek
    Ooh! And suddenly I’ll get the chance to fire the main guns!?
    Hmm… first you calculate the enemy position and direction as well as wind speed, direction, temperature and moisture
    Buuurning Loove!
    What?
    What?
    What?
    Also consider the earth’s curvature and change in gravitation then correct the numbers to it. Don't forget that the Earth's rate of rotation in distance changes with latitude
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