Looks like Shimakaze and Amatsukaze got a new friend.
Akizuki is like fucking broken in terms of AA stats.... Total BB-tier stats... O________o
Yuudachi finally has a friend who's op in a strange stat. Edit: She's not broken though, as she stays true to the actual ship who was quite praised for it's AA abilities.
It does make me a bit sad, though. Considering Shigure was previously the go-to ship for DD AAA. Though I guess it's balanced by night battle capability.
Looks like Shimakaze and Amatsukaze got a new friend.
Akizuki is like fucking broken in terms of AA stats.... Total BB-tier stats... O________o
To be fair that's not saying much given how awful Japanese BBs where in AA weaponry. A single late war Gearing class DD had similar AA throw weight and superior fire direction to any version of Kongo, Fusuo, or Nagato and more of that weight was in heavier 127 and 40mm shells while the bulk of the Jap ship's weight was in the marginal and short ranged 25mm. The fact these ships where all sailing around with such pitful AA weapons and yet still had flanks lined with utterly useless castemate guns right to the end is rather embarrassing.
Those rensouhous are creeping me out a little :/ Also, she looks kinda older for a destroyer, I suppose that destroyer's appeareance is determined by the time they were created, as the Mutsuki-class were the oldest destroyers during the war but they look like the youngest in-game, Akizuki-class were the last destroyers created in war I guess so they look the oldest, just a guess.
Those rensouhous are creeping me out a little :/ Also, she looks kinda older for a destroyer, I suppose that destroyer's appeareance is determined by the time they were created, as the Mutsuki-class were the oldest destroyers during the war but they look like the youngest in-game, Akizuki-class were the last destroyers created in war I guess so they look the oldest, just a guess.
I would like to say its the artist, but that might be reasonable. Or its based on their ship displacement.
I would like to say its the artist, but that might be reasonable. Or its based on their ship displacement.
Displacement is a reasonable explanation, since destroyers were continuously getting more massive as the years went on. (The major thing that made the Fubuki so "revolutionary" was the larger tonnage. The Mutsuki-class preceded the Fubuki-class.) The Mutsuki-class was 1440 tonnes, while the Akizuki-class was 3700 tonnes, which is over double the tonnage. (Tenryuu was only 4300 tonnes, so at that point the destroyers were getting up to the mass of earlier light cruisers. For what it's worth, the modern "destroyers" of the JMSDF, like the new Inazuma are 6100 tonnes, putting it in spitting range of light carriers like Ryuujou or heavy cruisers like Aoba.)
To be fair that's not saying much given how awful Japanese BBs where in AA weaponry. A single late war Gearing class DD had similar AA throw weight and superior fire direction to any version of Kongo, Fusuo, or Nagato and more of that weight was in heavier 127 and 40mm shells while the bulk of the Jap ship's weight was in the marginal and short ranged 25mm. The fact these ships where all sailing around with such pitful AA weapons and yet still had flanks lined with utterly useless castemate guns right to the end is rather embarrassing.
Kongou, Fusou, Nagato are all dreadnought-era battleship from WW1, they can't compare to newer ones who built in 30~40s.
Those rensouhous are creeping me out a little :/ Also, she looks kinda older for a destroyer, I suppose that destroyer's appeareance is determined by the time they were created, as the Mutsuki-class were the oldest destroyers during the war but they look like the youngest in-game, Akizuki-class were the last destroyers created in war I guess so they look the oldest, just a guess.
The Akizukis were pretty highly regarded at the time, so the artist probably wanted to project an air that Akizuki is competent and reliable, both "mature" traits so made her look older - she radiates an air that she's probably around Yuudachi and Shigure's age as opposed to total kids like the Akatsukis or Mutsukis.
CrimsonKoba said: Also, she looks kinda older for a destroyer.
I honestly have to say I greatly perfer the DD that seem and look older and more mature. I never really liked the "Destroys are kids" angle, DDs carried the bulk of the fighting on their backs after all, they were always in the middle of any fighting, the first fight and the first to bleed. I don't mind them being a bit smaller overall, but I prefer the ones that look and act more mature in reflection of their role and intense combat service personally.
Panzercracker said:
Kongou, Fusou, Nagato are all dreadnought-era battleship from WW1, they can't compare to newer ones who built in 30~40s.
They most certainly could if they had been competently upgraded. The Kongou class in particular where heavily rebuilt, but there AA weaponry barely expanded at all and the useless casemate weapons were retained. (The only thing those ever accomplished being providing a weak point to penetrate and a stack of rounds to detonate for one of Washington's 16 inch shells.)In contrast one of the key changes the US made on it's "Standard" ships of the same general era when it finally had the funds to properly rebuild a number of them during the war was entirely removing all casemate weapons and heavily expanding their AA batteries; once rebuilt these ships had fire control, sky arcs, and throw weights comparable to modern ships like North Carolina and South Dakota and grossly superior to anything Japanese. You really just have to look at them side by side to see the difference.
The Colorado class was a contemporary of Nagato whose building times overlapped, but in 1944 West Virgina looked like this and Nagato looked like this Tennessee's building time overlapped the Ise's, but before they butchered them in 1942 the Ise class looked about like this while in 1943 Tennessee looked like this
They most certainly could if they had been competently upgraded. The Kongou class in particular where heavily rebuilt, but there AA weaponry barely expanded at all and the useless casemate weapons were retained. (The only thing those ever accomplished being providing a weak point to penetrate and a stack of rounds to detonate for one of Washington's 16 inch shells.)In contrast one of the key changes the US made on it's "Standard" ships of the same general era when it finally had the funds to properly rebuild a number of them during the war was entirely removing all casemate weapons and heavily expanding their AA batteries; once rebuilt these ships had fire control, sky arcs, and throw weights comparable to modern ships like North Carolina and South Dakota and grossly superior to anything Japanese. You really just have to look at them side by side to see the difference.
The Colorado class was a contemporary of Nagato whose building times overlapped, but in 1944 West Virgina looked like this and Nagato looked like this Tennessee's building time overlapped the Ise's, but before they butchered them in 1942 the Ise class looked about like this while in 1943 Tennessee looked like this
IJN never focused on AA till late war, they were more focused on ship to ship battles, thus less AA batteries, also, if they were to remodel their casemates to HA sub guns, they would need to take their BBs off the battle zones, with the lower number of BBs IJN has, that would mean they lose their heavy shelling capabilities when dealing with US large ships
Mikufan said: IJN never focused on AA till late war, they were more focused on ship to ship battles, thus less AA batteries, also, if they were to remodel their casemates to HA sub guns, they would need to take their BBs off the battle zones, with the lower number of BBs IJN has, that would mean they lose their heavy shelling capabilities when dealing with US large ships
They found time to butcher two of them into totally useless "battle carriers", that yard time could have been FAR better used cycling through half a dozen of them to strip the casemate guns and add more heavy AA. I'm also talking about the various 30s era modernizations as well. The US, and pretty much everyone else, had come to regard hull level casemate weapons as useless long before the war. The standard types of the early 20s weren't even built with them and they were removed from earlier vessels as their limited time and money allowed, often in exchange for heavier AA weapons.
The Japanese ships meanwhile went through numerous modernization in the same period, yet retained the useless hull mounted weapons to the bitter end.
