that's how the fanon describe it, but i'll wait for the animu to explain all of this shits and take it as canon material instead
Expecting the anime to be anything beside nonstop, boring SoL. Hehe, is funny joke.
Honestly the fanon is and will surely remain vastly more interesting. I honestly lost all interest in it the moment the rollerskating on water crap was confirmed. Boring, I want to see actual ships shooting shit, we don't get nearly enough of that in any medium.
Expecting the anime to be anything beside nonstop, boring SoL. Hehe, is funny joke.
Honestly the fanon is and will surely remain vastly more interesting. I honestly lost all interest in it the moment the rollerskating on water crap was confirmed. Boring, I want to see actual ships shooting shit, we don't get nearly enough of that in any medium.
True, though I was hoping for Pacific Rim with shipgirls.
Expecting the anime to be anything beside nonstop, boring SoL. Hehe, is funny joke.
Honestly the fanon is and will surely remain vastly more interesting. I honestly lost all interest in it the moment the rollerskating on water crap was confirmed. Boring, I want to see actual ships shooting shit, we don't get nearly enough of that in any medium.
many seems like the action side on PV 1, and when the PV 2 comes out, some like the slice-of-life moment and say it's better than action, some not
well tbh, i just don't care which way the animu staff going to spin the series, i like KC and im going to support it no matter what happen
I honestly lost all interest in it the moment the rollerskating on water crap was confirmed. Boring, I want to see actual ships shooting shit, we don't get nearly enough of that in any medium.
Am I the only one who was actually okay with the whole "rollerskating" thing?! Besides, it would be redundant if the ships are controlling their own actual vessels. Remember that the girls are the ships themselves.
Am I the only one who was actually okay with the whole "rollerskating" thing?! Besides, it would be redundant if the ships are controlling their own actual vessels. Remember that the girls are the ships themselves.
Nope. I'm also fine with that. In fact, I was certain the "rollerskating" will become canon in the anime.
It makes sense for Fleet Girls to waterskate and it makes a nice spectacle in anime too, more fluid and majestic motion like the 3D Maneuvering Gear from AoT, except mostly 2D besides some jumps. If you wanted to see actual ships fighting, Arpeggio has that in spades.
I'm more worried about the anime being 90% slice of life moe moe stuff over particularities like how the Fleet Girls move around.
Even dedicated action series are only going to have a little bit of action. Frankly, slice of life with military overtones is just about perfect as a pacing medium.
It makes sense for Fleet Girls to waterskate and it makes a nice spectacle in anime too, more fluid and majestic motion like the 3D Maneuvering Gear from AoT, except mostly 2D besides some jumps. If you wanted to see actual ships fighting, Arpeggio has that in spades.
I'm more worried about the anime being 90% slice of life moe moe stuff over particularities like how the Fleet Girls move around.
my prediction about slice-of-life setting that it wont last longer than 2... nah, 3 episodes..
i think the staff is going to explain all the game mechanic in these 3 episodes and after that? action packed animu that is centered with beating Abyssal Fleet's ass, some tragedy is good too
Am I the only one who was actually okay with the whole "rollerskating" thing?! Besides, it would be redundant if the ships are controlling their own actual vessels. Remember that the girls are the ships themselves.
Meh, water rollerskating makes as much sense as it gets for ship girls, otherwise it would be thrusters on their pads/armaments to keep them afloa--oh wait...
Personally, gimmie KC girls hoverboarding the waters using the decks of their based ships as boards and it will make way more sense, if not be outright hilarious.
my prediction about slice-of-life setting that it wont last longer than 2... nah, 3 episodes..
i think the staff is going to explain all the game mechanic in these 3 episodes and after that? action packed animu that is centered with beating Abyssal Fleet's ass, some tragedy is good too
My prediction is that it's K-on with boats and any hints at depth beyond that let alone action is a massive cock tease. Sorry If I sound kind of jaded, but I'm not delusional and I've seen the direction the industry has gone in the last decade and (sadly) sells. I barely watch the stuff anymore beyond maybe a handful of series that dodge the increasingly grating lack of any substance or originality each year.
Sakuri_Kunikai said:
It makes sense for Fleet Girls to waterskate and it makes a nice spectacle in anime too, more fluid and majestic motion like the 3D Maneuvering Gear from AoT, except mostly 2D besides some jumps. If you wanted to see actual ships fighting, Arpeggio has that in spades.
In other worlds the same wire-fu crap we she in every anime ever with zero originality. For better or worse I can see a bunch of people jumping around like jack rabbits in 50 different shows and it'll probably be done better in many of them for strictly budget reasons.
On the other hand I can count the number of incidents of legitimate naval warfare in ANY visual speculative fiction on my fingers and toes, maybe just my fingers honestly. (I'm not counting a 30 second insert of a ship launching missiles in something otherwise entirely about mecha or magic or whatever here by the way, I mean shows where the ships are legitimately the focus of the action). Hence my borderline disgust that in a series made popular almost entirely on the back of the real history of naval warfare, we get no actual naval warfare because the people in charge can't put forth the effort to do anything besides have a bunch of girls rollerskating around with bows and arrows and swords, just like every other damn anime around it.
If you're not going to put any effort into doing something different and original, I'm sure as hell not going to spare ripping you a new one for being formulaic and boring. I gave Girl and Panzer crap for ludicrous character shields and ridiculously stupid opponents, but at least it had god damn tanks in it and the characters didn't literally rollerblade around with little ornamental bits that vaguely evoked armored vehicles strapped to them and it was vastly more interesting for it.
There is nothing compelling, interesting, or unique about rollerskating all it shows is a profound lack of any imagination and effort by basically just going "eh thinking is hard, doing something new is hard, let's just make it people that walk on water so we can do the same thing as every other show and just treat the water like flat ground 99% of the time"
Maybe so, but, as has been pointed out, the anime isn't pulling rollerskating shipgirls out of its ass. That's all KanColle EVER had, and I doubt whoever would have wanted to change it would have been able to convince all parties involved to so drastically depart from the source material (and yes, I mean the source material of the game popular enough to warrant a show,) to do anything else.
Keep in mind, the whole Mechamusume THING is not about making high school girls more popular by having all the kickass historically significant military hardware around them, it's about making the military hardware more popular by adding girls.
Just like RPGs have to have action or a goddamn full-blown FPS shoehorned in, or "horror" games have to become a FPS, or the most popular puzzle games have to be built off of a FPS with portals replacing bullets because apparently AAA target audiences are too stupid to understand anything that doesn't involve pointing at something and clicking to kill it, that's just the facts of the state of the industry.
Just take a look at most of these fanworks, and you'll see that at least half of the artists likely don't have the slightest clue about the historical traits of the shipgirls, and there's likely less of the fanbase. The sad fact is that the actual historical relevance of any of this is secondary to showing off Shimakaze in a thong, especially when it comes to ratings.
All told, this is not the worst ride for a military history buff, and it's generating a lot more interesting discussion material and fan works worth reading than there would be otherwise, so honestly, I think it's best to be happy with what you can get, because this IS a time of plenty for those in the niche.
NWSiaCB said: Maybe so, but, as has been pointed out, the anime isn't pulling rollerskating shipgirls out of its ass. That's all KanColle EVER had, and I doubt whoever would have wanted to change it would have been able to convince all parties involved to so drastically depart from the source material (and yes, I mean the source material of the game popular enough to warrant a show,) to do anything else.
Yeah, no, but really the anime is just sealing the deal, but the problem goes back to the first official releases really.
How exactly it all worked was so abstract in game it could be spun many different ways as fanon showed. The fact most fan artists, who tend to be better are drawing people then complex mechanics, choose to go with that didn't make it canon. It's eventual appearance in more official manga did make it likely, if vapid and uninspired, and the anime fully sealed it, but don't act like this was the only possible interpretation or way this could have gone after the game became popular enough to spawn spin off works. They where free to take it in a more interesting direction, but they went for the laziest, least inspired one possible.
Keep in mind, the whole Mechamusume THING is not about making high school girls more popular by having all the kickass historically significant military hardware around them, it's about making the military hardware more popular by adding girls.
The girls are a given, but how they're used is what makes the difference. Again Girl Und Panzer did it in an unusual and interesting way, Archipelago did it in an interesting way, Kancolle stuck propellers on some high heels and called it a day.
Just like RPGs have to have action or a goddamn full-blown FPS shoehorned in, or "horror" games have to become a FPS, or the most popular puzzle games have to be built off of a FPS with portals replacing bullets because apparently AAA target audiences are too stupid to understand anything that doesn't involve pointing at something and clicking to kill it, that's just the facts of the state of the industry.
You do know that going "hey OTHER industries are also creatively bankrupt and churn out tons of shit too!" is not actually a defense for YOU producing shit right? I hate the burning need of the game industry to Call of Duty'fiy EVERYTHING just as much as I hate the anime/manga scenes increasing creative bankruptcy beyond "just stick cute girls in it, it will sell now matter how vapid it is."
What Bioware did to Dragon Age had me nearly frothing at the mouth, the death of the space sim genre fills me with the burning rage of a thousand suns, and meager pittance of often divert and poorly polished RTSes we get nowadays makes me want to throttle things, but two wrongs don't make a right and this is no defense of formulaic anime.
Just take a look at most of these fanworks, and you'll see that at least half of the artists likely don't have the slightest clue about the historical traits of the shipgirls, and there's likely less of the fanbase. The sad fact is that the actual historical relevance of any of this is secondary to showing off Shimakaze in a thong, especially when it comes to ratings.
I do not buy this in the slightest, if you remove the historical elements you literally having nothing left to make it stand out at all. The only thing that made it stand out and draw the attention it did is the historical element, undoubtedly if it was PURELY historical it would not have gained the same attention, but acting like it would have the same attention if the historical backdrop was entirely removed is just as silly.
All told, this is not the worst ride for a military history buff, and it's generating a lot more interesting discussion material and fan works worth reading than there would be otherwise, so honestly, I think it's best to be happy with what you can get, because this IS a time of plenty for those in the niche.
The fanworks and discussion are the only redeeming things about it, which is the sad point. The official media for it is soulless and uninteresting. It did not HAVE to be that way, with just a bit of creative courage or drive it could have perhaps been at least worth watching or reading for it's own sake, but both are lacking and it really isn't. I don't and never have felt the need to be happy with having bland tasting slop heaped in front of me based on logic that amounts to "oh well, at least we're not starving to death I guess"
My standards are honestly not high, but I have standards and hope to see at least SOME effort put forth. I see no such effort in anything official out of Kancolle and that both annoys and saddens me given the wasted potential.
Steak said:
Warships are not popular. At best they're back drop for some joker in a fighter plane or a big giant head playing politics.
Tanks are not popular. At best they're some back drop for some joker in a mecha or a big gaint head playing politics. Well that was until someone with SLIGHTLY more balls decided to try it out at least. Nothing is popular until someone does it first and nothing can ever gain popularity if no one is willing to take ANY risks and try, and thus we see the core problem with so many forms of media today.
Tell me one thing though, will you honestly say this is better than "water skiing anthropomorphic warships because "this is how warships move in water"?
...well, it's nice to meet you.Hellohello! How do you do☆ I'm the spunky newly-made Aircraft Carrier ♡ Water Oni!Erm... There'll be a new addition to our fleet from today. This i- Nice to meet yooooou...
SENPAI...♡
