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  • ID: 1917490
  • Uploader: NWF Renim »
  • Date: over 10 years ago
  • Size: 1.84 MB .webm (640x360) »
  • Source: Kantai Collection Ep. 04
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    NNescio
    over 10 years ago
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    Shimakaze is OP, plz nerf.

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    T34-38
    over 10 years ago
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    NNescio said:

    Shimakaze is OP, plz nerf.

    Well to be frank, this is how Shimakaze would really do in real life. Even in Battlestations too. (Minus the cute Rensoushou-chan)

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    Mincemaker
    over 10 years ago
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    She's not the most advance WWII destroyer for nothing.

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    Seika
    over 10 years ago
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    Mincemaker said:

    She's not the most advance WWII destroyer for nothing.

    Can already see all the debunking comments incoming from the east side of Pacific Ocean.

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    Xcalibur255
    over 10 years ago
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    Most advanced is probably a fair statement overall. Definitely the fastest. The U.S. and (especially) Britain didn't push the envelope on destroyer design the way Japan and Germany did.

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    Mincemaker
    over 10 years ago
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    Xcalibur255 said:

    Most advanced is probably a fair statement overall. Definitely the fastest. The U.S. and (especially) Britain didn't push the envelope on destroyer design the way Japan and Germany did.

    The French Destroyer Terrible was faster but that one was reclassified as light cruiser and was also more skewed towards AA.

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    Lunatic6
    over 10 years ago
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    Shimakaze's design and armaments were purely for surface ship engagement. Before 1944, she was armed with three twin 127mm Type-3 Dual Purpose naval guns and the only destroyer equipped with three Quintuple 61cm torpedo launchers armed with Type-93 Long Lance Oxygen Torpedoes, she can be considered as the most powerful anti-surface ship destroyer during World War II.

    But despite for being the most powerful destroyer, she didn't able to utilized her firepower because the ocean was already dominated by aerial supremacy from the aircraft carriers during her commissioning and Shimakaze's anti-aircraft defense was not that effective (armed with only two triple 25mm AA guns then another two triple and two dual AA guns were added afterwards which raised her AA guns to 16 in exchange for one turret).

    Because of her unimpressive anti-aircraft defense, she did not stand a chance against the 350 planes from the Task Force 38 (only 9 planes were shot down).

    Updated by Lunatic6 over 10 years ago

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    Mincemaker
    over 10 years ago
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    Lunatic6 said:

    Shimakaze's design and armaments were purely for surface ship engagement. Before 1944, she was armed with three twin 127mm Type-3 Dual Purpose naval guns and the only destroyer equipped with three Quintuple 61cm torpedo launchers armed with Type-93 Long Lance Oxygen Torpedoes, she can be considered as the most powerful anti-surface ship destroyer during World War II.

    But despite for being the most powerful destroyer, she didn't able to utilized her firepower because the ocean was already dominated by aerial supremacy from the aircraft carriers during her commissioning and Shimakaze's anti-aircraft defense was not that effective (armed with only two triple 25mm AA guns then another two triple and two dual AA guns were added afterwards which raised her AA guns to 16 in exchange for one turret).

    Because of her unimpressive anti-aircraft defense, she did not stand a chance against the 350 planes from the Task Force 38 (only 9 planes were shot down).

    Shimakaze's time had long passed by the time she was deployed. Just like how the Yamato and Musashi came out too late to do any good.

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    cd young
    over 10 years ago
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    Lunatic6 said:

    Shimakaze's design and armaments were purely for surface ship engagement. Before 1944, she was armed with three twin 127mm Type-3 Dual Purpose naval guns and the only destroyer equipped with three Quintuple 61cm torpedo launchers armed with Type-93 Long Lance Oxygen Torpedoes, she can be considered as the most powerful anti-surface ship destroyer during World War II.

    But despite for being the most powerful destroyer, she didn't able to utilized her firepower because the ocean was already dominated by aerial supremacy from the aircraft carriers during her commissioning and Shimakaze's anti-aircraft defense was not that effective (armed with only two triple 25mm AA guns then another two triple and two dual AA guns were added afterwards which raised her AA guns to 16 in exchange for one turret).

    Because of her unimpressive anti-aircraft defense, she did not stand a chance against the 350 planes from the Task Force 38 (only 9 planes were shot down).

    Basically, Shimakaze's the glassiest cannon, she can deal a lot of damage, but if the abyssals even look at her sternly she's going down faster then Kisaragi.

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    OOZ662
    over 10 years ago
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    The way she stuck her ass out to fire the torpedoes made me laugh when I barely glimpsed it during the show; having the loading stick on that frame here made it even more apparent and weird.

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    Mincemaker
    over 10 years ago
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    cd_young said:

    Basically, Shimakaze's the glassiest cannon, she can deal a lot of damage, but if the abyssals even look at her sternly she's going down faster then Kisaragi.

    That's what her speed was for.

    For all the good that did against all the aircrafts.

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    T34-38
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    cd_young said:

    Basically, Shimakaze's the glassiest cannon, she can deal a lot of damage, but if the abyssals even look at her sternly she's going down faster then Kisaragi.

    True and true. That is if they manage to sight Shimakaze and not too busy dealing with enemy planes.

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    Xcalibur255
    over 10 years ago
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    Mincemaker said:

    That's what her speed was for.

    For all the good that did against all the aircrafts.

    Not any good against aircraft, but definitely helps her effectiveness during a torpedo run which was her primary surface action mission.

    41 knots is still impressive today, back then it was pretty amazing.

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    NWSiaCB
    over 10 years ago
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    I'm honestly a little amazed only one person's mentioned this so far before me, and instead this went into historical Shimakaze...

    More to the point:

    OOZ662 said:

    The way she stuck her ass out to fire the torpedoes made me laugh when I barely glimpsed it during the show; having the loading stick on that frame here made it even more apparent and weird.

    Seriously, that has to be the stupidest way I've ever seen someone devise to fire a weapon. She only has a vague idea where she's aiming, it involves bending over in a rather unstable pose (which would potentially further skew aim with UNGUIDED "iron sights" torpedoes), and the firing action seems to be some wild hip thrust action (further skewing aim). (Not that it isn't surprising on the biggest pedo-bait of the game that hip thrusting is her main mode of attack...)

    At least the Akatsuki-class design had an independent swing-arm, and the Fubuki-class thigh torpedoes were functionally spinal mount aim.

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    Keo
    over 10 years ago
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    NWSiaCB said:

    I'm honestly a little amazed only one person's mentioned this so far before me, and instead this went into historical Shimakaze...

    More to the point:

    Seriously, that has to be the stupidest way I've ever seen someone devise to fire a weapon. She only has a vague idea where she's aiming, it involves bending over in a rather unstable pose (which would potentially further skew aim with UNGUIDED "iron sights" torpedoes), and the firing action seems to be some wild hip thrust action (further skewing aim). (Not that it isn't surprising on the biggest pedo-bait of the game that hip thrusting is her main mode of attack...)

    At least the Akatsuki-class design had an independent swing-arm, and the Fubuki-class thigh torpedoes were functionally spinal mount aim.

    She was launching torpedoes. I assume the torpedoes are guided so it didn't matter how she fires it because as long as it gets in the water and sights the enemy.
    It also goes to show how...interesting Shimakaze is, like she should be. She is an eccentric one, that girl.

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    Steak
    over 10 years ago
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    Seriously, that has to be the stupidest way I've ever seen someone devise to fire a weapon.

    She came up with it and she gets results.

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    Saladofstones
    over 10 years ago
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    NWSiaCB said:

    Seriously, that has to be the stupidest way I've ever seen someone devise to fire a weapon. She only has a vague idea where she's aiming, it involves bending over in a rather unstable pose (which would potentially further skew aim with UNGUIDED "iron sights" torpedoes), and the firing action seems to be some wild hip thrust action (further skewing aim). (Not that it isn't surprising on the biggest pedo-bait of the game that hip thrusting is her main mode of attack...)

    There is absolutely nothing practical about shimakaze, from her clothing, to her rensouchans to her torpedo layout.

    She is special snowflake incarnate

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    OOZ662
    over 10 years ago
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    Keo said:

    She was launching torpedoes. I assume the torpedoes are guided so it didn't matter how she fires it because as long as it gets in the water and sights the enemy.
    It also goes to show how...interesting Shimakaze is, like she should be. She is an eccentric one, that girl.

    Assuming they're sticking to WWII technology, the torpedoes are unguided. It was only very late in the war that deployments of torpedoes seeking on engine noise started to be deployed. WWII torpedoes were fired trigonometrically; the torpedo's speed, the enemy's speed, range, and angle on bow were the inputs (optionally, automatic spread angle between each torpedo), and it made one turn after leaving the tube before running straight. That is, unless it failed to straighten and ran a nice circle into your stern.

    Do note these statements are in the case of submarine launched torpedoes; those fired out of multi-tube racks from maneuvering surface ships were probably just fired "boresight" with spread being the only input, but I haven't studied them as in-depth.

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    NNescio
    over 10 years ago
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    NWSiaCB said:

    I'm honestly a little amazed only one person's mentioned this so far before me, and instead this went into historical Shimakaze...

    More to the point:

    Seriously, that has to be the stupidest way I've ever seen someone devise to fire a weapon. She only has a vague idea where she's aiming, it involves bending over in a rather unstable pose (which would potentially further skew aim with UNGUIDED "iron sights" torpedoes), and the firing action seems to be some wild hip thrust action (further skewing aim). (Not that it isn't surprising on the biggest pedo-bait of the game that hip thrusting is her main mode of attack...)

    At least the Akatsuki-class design had an independent swing-arm, and the Fubuki-class thigh torpedoes were functionally spinal mount aim.

    HQ: The torpedoes are fired out with WHAAAAAT!? That has got to be the stupidest firing mechanism we've ever heard.

    Scientist: Please, at least take a look at the data... and the video.

    HQ: <Gaijin 4koma 4th panel reaction shot>

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    Tetsamaru
    over 10 years ago
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    I said it once and I'll say it again. Fairies and magic. The girls and abyss ships have barriers, last I checked, WW2 technology didn't include force fields.

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    OOZ662
    over 10 years ago
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    Tetsamaru said:

    I said it once and I'll say it again. Fairies and magic. The girls and abyss ships have barriers, last I checked, WW2 technology didn't include force fields.

    Well, when we start seeing their torpedoes acting like Macross missiles, I'll change my line of thought.

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    NNescio
    over 10 years ago
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    Well obviously their torpedoes are guided. I mean, how else do they manage to [expletive deleted] hit the [expletive deleted] destroyer every single [expletive deleted] time!? And the same [expletive deleted] destroyer at that!

    (I jest.)

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    Tetsamaru
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    NNescio said:

    Well obviously their torpedoes are guided. I mean, how else do they manage to [expletive deleted] hit the [expletive deleted] destroyer every single [expletive deleted] time!? And the same [expletive deleted] destroyer at that!

    (I jest.)

    Akagi: If you believe you will hit, you will hit. *Closes eyes*

    USE THE FORCE LU- I MEAN FUBUKI!

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    Seika
    over 10 years ago
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    Tetsamaru said:

    I said it once and I'll say it again. Fairies and magic.

    *starts playing Jinrui wa Suitai shimashita opening song*

    Obviously they fired something like Kaiten with fairies piloting them inside.

    Akagi is probably a bad choice for teaching torpedoes. Better find the cruisers

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    NNescio
    over 10 years ago
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    Seika said:

    *starts playing Jinrui wa Suitai shimashita opening song*

    Obviously they fired something like Kaiten with fairies piloting them inside.

    Akagi is probably a bad choice for teaching torpedoes. Better find the cruisers

    Find Sendai. She'll teach you how to throw them like kunai.

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    Mincemaker
    over 10 years ago
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    NNescio said:

    Find Sendai. She'll teach you how to throw them like kunai.

    Or Kitakami, after bribing Ooi. She's a Torpedo Cruiser and all.

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