Oh Kongou. Step aside please. I wanna punch him too.

Edit: Honestly, though, I think the happy end for Maya should be just forget about this dickhead and find a better one.

Punch him, punch him dead, Kongou! Do my share too! I had my hopes up with his line in that 2nd frame too but this guy can't be forgiven!

laisy said:

Oh Kongou. Step aside please. I wanna punch him too.

Keep some for me too. Making this good-willed Maya cry twice is worth a beating from each and every one of us.

KONGOU DO IT AGAIN!! And BURN him to crisp!

Just punches? You got guns, Kongou, unleash hell!

In today's survey:

(no title given)

Nails
The Rack
Screwdriver
Pliers
Nippers

I think you can guess the subject...

At least there's a sliver of hope, given the commentary on the last page.

Aaand he made her cry again.... Just chop off his dick and end with it.

This is why he can't get a girl.

This guy is certainly the biggest scumbag we ever had in the shitty amiral pool. Even the usual 'creepy guy' used in rape doujin aren't that low.

Kongou needs to go full Dempsey Roll on this bastard.

Add to pool: Good work Kongou!

Feels good, man.

I am only virgin here? Because I think Admiral right. It his life after all. Why he must understands other feeling, if nobody don't care about his feeling? When all have fun about him - it's normal, when he says "Nope" to the girl - he is bad gay. Seems not very fair.

Greykar said:

I am only virgin here? Because I think Admiral right. It his life after all. Why he must understands other feeling, if nobody don't care about his feeling? When all have fun about him - it's normal, when he says "Nope" to the girl - he is bad gay. Seems not very fair.

It's less about him being a virgin, and more being an absolute dick to other girls who decided to have sex with others. It's blatantly obvious that Maya is attracted to him and wants to be with him, but he selfishly pushes her away.

As others pointed out, it seems more like this admiral is a caricature of "Virgins only! Used Goods are shitty sluts!" otaku that you see on Japanese messageboards.

Greykar said:

I am only virgin here? Because I think Admiral right. It his life after all. Why he must understands other feeling, if nobody don't care about his feeling? When all have fun about him - it's normal, when he says "Nope" to the girl - he is bad gay. Seems not very fair.

Yes, that's actually the point. Masara is dissing both those hypocritical otakus who want only "purity", and also dissing the people who diss those otakus by going the other extreme.

Quite efficient, I have to say.

CGrascal said:

It's blatantly obvious that Maya is attracted to him and wants to be with him, but he selfishly pushes her away.

At the same time, is there any reason why he has to give himself up?

CGrascal said:
It's less about him being a virgin, and more being an absolute dick to other girls who decided to have sex with others. It's blatantly obvious that Maya is attracted to him and wants to be with him, but he selfishly pushes her away.

What do you mean "selfishly pushes her away"? For example, random girl loves me. I don't like her. She confessed that love me. So...what i must do? If I "pushes her away", it is be selfishly. If i accept her feeling, it is be hypocrisy. And what? Girls are always not guilty. Because they are cute..can cry. Not fair.

(Produes metal bat) Save the glasses and the eyes for me, i got plans for those.

Greykar said:

(...)

Because he's judging every girl with a (healthy) sexual life as a slut and as "used goods".

That's why I'd like to see his dick chopped off.

SumeragiAkeiko said:

At the same time, is there any reason why he has to give himself up?

There's a difference between rejecting someone and being an absolute douchebag. The previous image, this admiral compared Maya to a plate that someone shat on. You may have cleaned it up, but it's still a plate that someone shat on was his reasoning why he claims he refuses to be with Maya. This admiral selfishly wants his own desires to come true and not give a shit about what the other may think. In other words, Masara is mocking the otaku who throw a hissy fit if a "pure maiden" isn't so pure after all.

SumeragiAkeiko said:

Yes, that's actually the point. Masara is dissing both those hypocritical otakus who want only "purity", and also dissing the people who diss those otakus by going the other extreme.

Quite efficient, I have to say.

I think you might have had a point if the Admiral here was shown to be a tad bit sympathetic, but so far that hasn't been the case. And Masara isn't really the type to be... uh, subtle. Also he's being well... shitty about it.

Then again, this entire "virgins only" thing is such an alien concept to me. I mean it is important to know about one's sexual history for health reasons and everything but beyond that I really find it hard to care. People who are that obsessive about their sex life tend to have horrible or nonexistent ones because they think that their first time [and every other time after that] has to be perfect. I mean, it is ultimately your choice whether or not your first time has to be with a virgin but you have no one to blame but yourself if you're having a hard time like our Shitty Admiral here.

Still a virgin BTW, I just read stuff.

Guys, forget this admiral for a moment.

This Kongou has High Chances of turning Maya who only had 2 guys so far into real slut.

I'm more scared of the concept of "good man" Kongo has.

And since Masara said he wanted Maya to have a happy ending let's hope this Kuso Teitoku mans up and saves Maya from that fate.

Pronak said:

Because he's judging every girl with a (healthy) sexual life as a slut and as "used goods".

If somebody kills human, everyone call him a murder. If someone stole something, everyone call him a thief. So what's wrong in admiral logic? Or "Is admiral logic wrong?". Fuck, my native language not so strict in sentence structure.

Greykar said:

I am only virgin here? Because I think Admiral right. It his life after all. Why he must understands other feeling, if nobody don't care about his feeling? When all have fun about him - it's normal, when he says "Nope" to the girl - he is bad gay. Seems not very fair.

Yeah, but half the fun is seeing his ass get beat and stepped on by everyone else. It's part of the humor.
I'm actually glad Maya is someone he can step on however. For those that get stepped on so much, when they finally get a break it feels good, like a breath of relief.

I don't careless about Maya to tell the truth. She knows better than to be with a dickhead who only think about fucking virgins. Hell, this is why reality is so great. Most women aren't stupid enough to be with people like him.

That and it seems like the Admiral here thinks that Maya already have someone loving her, so he's too gutless to approach. With the fact that almost every other person in the base already having someone else they love, I don't blame him for wanting to wait and search for someone just for him.
Here's to you and your endless journey toward this lonely path of life, my friend. We all must walk it alone, but at the very least we can know that somewhere along the road, we'll be able to see others just like us and silently laugh at each other so we can feel just a bit better.

Stand in line! Stand in line! There's admiral to beat for everyone, so stay calm and stand in line! Unarmed men to the right, crowbars, pipes, hatchets and nailbats to the left!

Greykar said:

So what's wrong in admiral logic? Or "Is admiral logic wrong?".

Yes, it is, at least in my personal opinion: he may have his own ideas and mentality, but what I cannot stand nor accept, is somebody that calls another a slut for having a sexual life.

Also, yes, I want to murder Masara's admiral because he's the archetype of a douchebag.

Greykar said:

If somebody kills human, everyone call him a murder. If someone stole something, everyone call him a thief. So what's wrong in admiral logic? Or "Is admiral logic wrong?". Fuck, my native language not so strict in sentence structure.

I didn't know everyone having a sexual active life with consent are all "sluts". Even those kind of people know better each other have feelings and needs they wish to fillfull. The moment you forget that and threat another living being as a mere object you deserve to die virgin and be treated as trash... just like a thief or a murder. It's not about rejecting someone you don't like but about HOW you reject her.

Here's some interesting reading concerning the artist:Madonna–whore complex

This earlier theory is based not on oedipal-based castration anxiety but on man's primary hatred of women, stimulated by the child's sense that he had been made to experience intolerable frustration and/or narcissistic injury at the hands of his mother. According to this theory, in adulthood the boy-turned-man seeks to avenge these mistreatments through sadistic attacks on women who are stand-ins for mother.

Freud would have a field day with masara.

I find it strange that no one has commented on the admiral's statement here. First is that he knows of a subordinate who truly loves Maya unlike him, so he feels that Maya should be with him, or at least someone who actually loves her. Second is that he realizes that instead of holding a normal belief like everyone else, he is a black sheep within his community, and while he recognizes and somewhat accepts this, he doesn't want to lose such a beloved ideal. He is not a good judge of character and is extremely shallow, but at least he doesn't push his dogma onto others. All in all, he's meant to represent the audiences supposed outlook on these matters, and wanting to cut of his penis just says more about you than anything else.

MentallyUnstable said:

I find it strange that no one has commented on the admiral's statement here. First is that he knows of a subordinate who truly loves Maya unlike him, so he feels that Maya should be with him, or at least someone who actually loves her. Second is that he realizes that instead of holding a normal belief like everyone else, he is a black sheep within his community, and while he recognizes and somewhat accepts this, he doesn't want to lose such a beloved ideal. He is not a good judge of character and is extremely shallow, but at least he doesn't push his dogma onto others. All in all, he's meant to represent the audiences supposed outlook on these matters, and wanting to cut of his penis just says more about you than anything else.

I was going to comment, but then this two comment an hour thing stopped me.

And good point, by now the Teitoku is self-aware of his limitations, which makes this a double-layer dissing.

ScrotyMcGee said:

Here's some interesting reading concerning the artist:Madonna–whore complex

Freud would have a field day with masara.

I don't think the man who was proven wrong in almost every subject he threw out and suggested to the public that cocaine is a miracle cure should be the person that people keep quoting and using for almost every psychological problem in the world.

Freud, even if he did bring some interesting insights, was about as correct as those scientist that study eugenics.

Keo said:

Hell, this is why reality is so great. Most women aren't stupid enough to be with people like him.

You're highly overestimating people. Most men and women are stupid enough to be with people like him, if they happen to fall in love.

While I agree with each one his mentality(thus, the admiral being free of having his own belief), what has to be reminded is who masara is targeting. Mostly, the otaku with those "used goods" mentality are really extreme and while this admiral didn't show it this much even during Naka's case, a lot of those people can push it really far. typically, that's the stalker otaku you read every now and then, stalking an idol, a seiyuu, whatever celebrity should stay "pure", without "boyfriend", and the moment they discover she has one or ever slept with anybody, they start to make a huge fuss over the net, publicly ruining the said celebrity, burning all his goods saying that person is impure, stained etc. To those guys, they're the only ones allowed to stain those girls in their own mind(with hentai stuff and all), but should she have a sexual, or simply even a love life and it's the end of the road. Some even go as far as attacking them for being impure.
Then, the admiral here is one hell of a douchebag but doesn't show this extreme behaviour. But he basically represent them (just see how he reacted about Naka, which is basically how those usual creeps would react. But the admiral would have scrapped her just for that if he was extreme, and not because she was going to report him).

Greykar said:

I am only virgin here? Because I think Admiral right. It his life after all. Why he must understands other feeling, if nobody don't care about his feeling? When all have fun about him - it's normal, when he says "Nope" to the girl - he is bad gay. Seems not very fair.

Also, while I usually don't care about Maya, I really like masara's one (and C-button's last one week Maya, but that's another story). She never dissed the admiral in this story, unlike, say, Suzuya when she jokes. So he has no valid reason to be that disrespectful of her. She really cares about him, in fact, and let's suppose he doesn't love her, he could reject her in another way. But all he thought was that she was used goods, basically garbage unworthy of him; and he reiterates the point here by comparing her to a plate with shit.

Virgin or not, the problem with this admiral is not his virginity; it's treating them like objects that are no good if they ever had a sexual life other than with him. He's not looking for a romance hre, he just want sex, and doesn't care about with who, BUT that person have to be a virgin. At the beginning, not so much, he was, like all of us, surprised by the behaviour of those usually innocent-looking shipgirls. But as the story goes on, he just became more and more of a douchebag.
Although, like some, I do think that he's a bit better than expected as he seemed considerate of Maya's other candidate and aware of his own delusions.

Greykar said:

If somebody kills human, everyone call him a murder. If someone stole something, everyone call him a thief. So what's wrong in admiral logic? Or "Is admiral logic wrong?". Fuck, my native language not so strict in sentence structure.

His logic isn't necessarly wrong(it's his choice to do it with a virgin), his hypocritical thinking is more the matter. He thinks any woman who ever had sex (even with one person) is just a slut, yet he wants to have sex with a woman too, making her become "a slut" too, but since it's him, it's supposed to be okay. When it's not him, he sees the girls as less than a person, and doesn't give a fuck about hurting them even if they're sincere, kind and never have any ill intent like Maya here. She never deserved this kind of rejection. If it was Suzuya or, dunno, Ashigara, both having made fun of him being a virgin, would have been a little more acceptable, but Maya never did anything wrong.

In response to SHBr(because his response was pretty long):

I agree with you wholeheartedly, but something that I feel should be pointed out was his character development. When the series first started out, he seemed like a normal guy who cherished the idea of innocence but was not so against the concept of sexual experience. If you look at his comment over Akagi and others Kanmusu in the first few pages, he was surprised but not really caring of their personal choices. His fall to darkness started when he saw the counters for the ships who acted pure but were not at all, such as Haguro or Fubuki. To see such an unexpected outcome contrary to one's beliefs is enough to make anyone more unhinged and protected of them, but at the same time, willing to look at how widespread the opposite ideals are. When everyone around you wears black but you love white, you'll likely be far more protective and delusional over that belief, because you feel alone in a sea. In all honesty, I like to believe myself an open-minded person who is not a complete asshole, but if me, or hell, any of us were put into his situation, I doubt that we could be as accepting or peachy as we believe we would be. One thing I know I would do differently though is actively pursue a Kanmusu whose ideals match my own, because loneliness is better shared.

He can still prefer virgins. He just doesn't need to be a dick about it.

Maya keep charging at him. He didn't bother with other girls whose number keep growing but keep it for themselves. Think of it as he's getting annoyed and finally lashed out on her.

As for the virginity, I'm going to make a guess that it's not merely an ideal of getting a pure and innocent girl.
It's a matter of mental security. He can't believe a girl will put him on an equal stand when they have the upper hand. This is like country that can't feel safe unless they have more nukes than their enemies and neighbours.
What if he doesn't perform well and get compared to their previous partners, how can he know they won't cheat on him later day, how would he do if they are dominating him and he got no way to escape ? He know he's not that strong.

He doesn't want to step out, but the story is made for everyone's opinion to force the boy out of his room because it's the commonly accepted "correct" way of thought.

Best thing he could do now is tell Kongou about that guy who loves Maya. But that would be against the story concept (Admiral doing anything good)

On the same face problem, thought that's Sendai in the first panel

SumeragiAkeiko said:
Quite efficient, I have to say.

My love for Masara just keeps growing in my heart. He's Incredible!

But my fellow friends, if want to believe in a more than "forgetting him" end for Maya, you should remenber that's Masara we are reading. I'll wait warmingly for Kongou's good man.

Naumahagtos said:

I'll wait warmingly for Kongou's good man.

Word: A good man. Singular. Kongou probably will introduce her to the said subordinate that Masara thought in second panel so she could be properly loved. But then I want Maya to finally break and go Yandere on the admiral, nice boat style. If he can't love Maya, she can... force him instead.

bombermania said:

Word: A good man. Singular. Kongou probably will introduce her to the said subordinate that Masara thought in second panel so she could be properly loved. But then I want Maya to finally break and go Yandere on the admiral, nice boat style. If he can't love Maya, she can... force him instead.

It's Masara, remember what did Kongo to Ro-chan.

I would rather have Maya be without Kongo's lots of good mEn.

bombermania said:

But then I want Maya to finally break and go Yandere on the admiral, nice boat style. If he can't love Maya, she can... force him instead.

Maya is a nice boat, though. Why can't she just move on, and let this guy die lonely and frustrated?

bombermania said:

Word: A good man. Singular.

Ah, Japanese does plurals differently - while it's implied that that it's only one man (due to the lack of plural marker) it could quite possibly be more than one.

Pablete said:

It's Masara, remember what did Kongo to Ro-chan.

Again, are we sure those were actual men, or was the German glasses counting any and all sexual partners?

Well, at least he's not a COMPLETELY shitty admiral.

Knite0 said:

Well, at least he's not a COMPLETELY shitty admiral.

But he is a fool.

MentallyUnstable said:

In response to SHBr(because his response was pretty long):

I agree with you wholeheartedly, but something that I feel should be pointed out was his character development. When the series first started out, he seemed like a normal guy who cherished the idea of innocence but was not so against the concept of sexual experience. If you look at his comment over Akagi and others Kanmusu in the first few pages, he was surprised but not really caring of their personal choices. His fall to darkness started when he saw the counters for the ships who acted pure but were not at all, such as Haguro or Fubuki. To see such an unexpected outcome contrary to one's beliefs is enough to make anyone more unhinged and protected of them, but at the same time, willing to look at how widespread the opposite ideals are. When everyone around you wears black but you love white, you'll likely be far more protective and delusional over that belief, because you feel alone in a sea. In all honesty, I like to believe myself an open-minded person who is not a complete asshole, but if me, or hell, any of us were put into his situation, I doubt that we could be as accepting or peachy as we believe we would be. One thing I know I would do differently though is actively pursue a Kanmusu whose ideals match my own, because loneliness is better shared.

Haha, sorry about that, I tend to sometimes write a bit too much, hope it wasn't annoying or anything.
I agree, as I said he wasn't much of a dick at first, but as the story goes he gets darker. I can relate to what you're saying, that feeling of loneliness is pretty hard on us usually. But what the admiral lacks is seeing beyond that. I grew up in a calm environment, in a little peaceful twon and suddenly had to move in the suburbs near the capital. That was a drastic change, as I was one that liked to play, believed in romance and all, while most of my new classmates were all about superficiality, power, sex, smoking and such. I clinged to my belief still, to my sense of what is right or what is wrong but that's all. I never ever dissed anybody nor was disrespectful. That's what the admiral did wrong. (sorry, wasn't planning of telling a story but couldn't find any better example)

You're right, if I was in the place, I would have trouble accepting the active sexual lifes of the shipgirls, like this admiral, indeed. I mean, god, Haguro was really a shock along with the kongou sis and akitsu Maru. But unlike him, I'd still watch the attitude and react according to that. Not lash out anybody just because of my frustration, especially when they're good-willed. Maya is a really nice girl here, as shown in her reaction when she got kai2, and wasn't just adding the admiral as a simple number like Kongou or Iku would do, or adding him to her harem like Suzuya. Common courtesy or something like that?
It's not that I don't understand how the admiral can feel, it's more how he start to think past a certain point, instead of just being surprised. ("used", thus useless goods, and treating every non-virgin like a bitch)

Seika said:

Maya keep charging at him. He didn't bother with other girls whose number keep growing but keep it for themselves. Think of it as he's getting annoyed and finally lashed out on her.

As for the virginity, I'm going to make a guess that it's not merely an ideal of getting a pure and innocent girl.
It's a matter of mental security. He can't believe a girl will put him on an equal stand when they have the upper hand. This is like country that can't feel safe unless they have more nukes than their enemies and neighbours.
What if he doesn't perform well and get compared to their previous partners, how can he know they won't cheat on him later day, how would he do if they are dominating him and he got no way to escape ? He know he's not that strong.

He doesn't want to step out, but the story is made for everyone's opinion to force the boy out of his room because it's the commonly accepted "correct" way of thought.

Best thing he could do now is tell Kongou about that guy who loves Maya. But that would be against the story concept (Admiral doing anything good)

On the same face problem, thought that's Sendai in the first panel

That's the point, lashing out on the nicer one isn't really a good attitude. I'm pretty sure everyone (at least I) wouldn't be so concerned about him if he was hard on the "right" person, like, dunno, say Kongou. She is liking to have sex with lot of people(and that's her way, I don't blame her), and while he doesn't have any rights to criticize, it would be less aggravating. But he hurt Maya, one who was nice to him and obviously wasn't bearing any bad intent seeing that she came back thinking that would please him, showing clearly that she cares about him and doesn't see him just as a poor virgin or a trophy(there's also the whole stuff about hurting someone in love which is harder on her, he's not rejecting her plainly, he's telling her cold-heartedly that she's basically shit and not worthy of him. Think about it if your crush was to act the same). I suppose that if he was mean to someone else nice, we'd react "angrily" like we are now too. Instead of Maya, if he was mean to that lil' Ryuujou, Ikazuchi, Akashi, Houshou, or Shioi (or Ushio/Shoukaku eventually as they're not particularly nice, but well, are victims), we'd react all the same. But if it was the Kongou sis', the subs, or Suzuya and Kumano who were dissing on him the first time, that would be less an issue. Think of it like that: suppose a guy is annoying you, but his child is a nice one who likes you and come to chat with you, comfort you, etc. What the admiral does is pretty much taking it out on the child because of the father, when that kid only wanted to make you happy and smile.

Also, I can relate to what you're saying, it's true that insecurity can be really tough on some people. Constantly worrying about the girl thinking someone's better, might leave us, or anything often makes one thinks a virgin's better(well, there are girls and boys that would tell youyou're worse, but Maya in this story doesn't seem to be that kind). On a darker note by the way, a virgin girl can be a way for guys to "form" them to be their perfect sexual partner who'd not flee to another boy because he's their first and only, thus not having any referencing for the "amount of pleasure"(well, that's a sort of extreme thinking but I know it exists).

Well, all of this is just my opinion so...

And yeah, his best move right now would be telling Kongou about Maya's secret admirator now but well, it's masara we're talking about.
(and while I don't like the admiral, I quite enjoy this story nonetheless)

IMO he doesn't have much reason to lash out on Kongou or the other girls. It's not because they're stronger, he just don't have reason to do that. The other girls practically pull a line between him and them, and they keep distance.
Even girls who offered themselves to him like Katori and Akitsumaru backs off when he refused without insisting.

Maya in the other hand, is the only one who came back at him, and that's threatening the stability he have now.
And like someone said up there (downvoted ?), just because Maya love him, doesn't mean he have to accept. It's not like girls have to love back anyone who confessed their love, even for ridiculous reason.
Shallow as it is, his criteria is "virgin".

I think he already know it in his heart that there's probably no girl for him. But he would rather hold on to that principle rather than have to compromise. Maybe he can learn to find comfort in that loneliness.
After all, Masara will ruin the chance to keep this story running.

Seika said:

IMO he doesn't have much reason to lash out on Kongou or the other girls. It's not because they're stronger, he just don't have reason to do that. The other girls practically pull a line between him and them, and they keep distance.
Even girls who offered themselves to him like Katori and Akitsumaru backs off when he refused without insisting.

Maya in the other hand, is the only one who came back at him, and that's threatening the stability he have now.
And like someone said up there (downvoted ?), just because Maya love him, doesn't mean he have to accept. It's not like girls have to love back anyone who confessed their love, even for ridiculous reason.
Shallow as it is, his criteria is "virgin".

I think he already know it in his heart that there's probably no girl for him. But he would rather hold on to that principle rather than have to compromise. Maybe he can learn to find comfort in that loneliness.
After all, Masara will ruin the chance to keep this story running.

Oh, that comment, I did see it this morning... Well, as I said, the whole problem isn't to forcibly accept Maya's love, it's how he rejected her and how he thinks about it. Fine, his criteria might be "virgin", why not, but like the first time already, when he rejected Maya, we could see his mind "Tchh, used goods", which shows how disrespectful of her he is already, and repeating that by openly comparing her to shit, well, is really mean. Also, there's something else, as I stated earlier he isn't looking for a durable relationship, just for sex, so that'd be obvious he'd reject Maya anyway. He knew Unryuu was doing sexual things with a lot of guys and thus not really one who was going for a stable relationship, yet he wanted to do her just because she was a virgin "down there". To reject Maya was the "good" choice, he just have to learn to not simply haughtily diss on people just because he wants to.

IMO he would have more reasons to lash out at Suzuya or Ashigara since they mocked him being a virgin. But yeah, unlike Suzuya, nobody else came back at him.

Then again, I like this story and it wouldn't be so interesting if he was the average prota. True, lots of people are angry at him, but that just shows how much masara can move people with this admiral. If he just accepted the good shipgirls, the story wouldn't go on. Besides, like someone said before, it's already strange enough he didn't try to hit on Akashi, since she's a virgin. Nor Inazuma at first(he wasn't supposed to know the first time; and yet he went after Ikazuchi)

If you'll take my two cents on the matter, what this admiral needs is not torture, but a man-to-man talk to wake him up from his idiocy.

And from now on, the "Maya-route" for this admiral looks glum. Best case scenario, they reconcile, and a happy ending, worst case, he misses his best chance in life, and Kongou takes her down a dark path of debauchery...

Also, while I can see this admirals idea of wanting to lose his virginity to a virgin, and up until now could get behind it, he became a tad too obsessed with the idea now...

Seika said:

Maya in the other hand, is the only one who came back at him, and that's threatening the stability he have now.
And like someone said up there (downvoted ?), just because Maya love him, doesn't mean he have to accept. It's not like girls have to love back anyone who confessed their love, even for ridiculous reason.
Shallow as it is, his criteria is "virgin".

Stop being egoistical for a brief moment and repeat after me: "The problem is not to forcefully accept only because someone you don't want likes you, but dissing them like trash and find excuses to do so as justification ('There's a subordinate that loves Maya with all his might too')".

In the end you receive what you give.

GreenDrag said:

If you'll take my two cents on the matter, what this admiral needs is not torture, but a man-to-man talk to wake him up from his idiocy.

Is it idiocy to want to do one's first with a virgin and stick to that principle?

rom_collector said:

Stop being egoistical for a brief moment and repeat after me: "The problem is not to forcefully accept only because someone you don't want likes you, but dissing them like trash and find excuses to do so as justification ('There's a subordinate that loves Maya with all his might too')".

In the end you receive what you give.

Have you ever heard of "being mean to be kind"? This Maya has been clinging onto him all this time despite his rebuffs. Sometimes you have to push hard against an unworkable, doomed fate.

I'm really starting to question people's standards here. It's bordering on hypocrisy.

SumeragiAkeiko said:

Have you ever heard of "being mean to be kind"? This Maya has been clinging onto him all this time despite his rebuffs. Sometimes you have to push hard against an unworkable, doomed fate.

I'm really starting to question people's standards here. It's bordering on hypocrisy.

Nice try to justify someone who disses women as "used goods" only because they're not up to his selfish expectations of the true world. That tells much about your true self. I'm sorry but I don't buy it. I hope you're not one of those who try to rape women only because they use miniskirts and so "were asking for it".

I'm starting to notice the lack of that which makes us human beings around here too. But I suppose that's expected from those who arouse with fictional characters and have almost null knowledge of interacting with real people. Not saying everyone here are like that of course.

Masara's comic sure does bring out hell of a discussion. The only time I ever see this much wall of text is usually when a post get flagged. It's pretty damn amazing, what an artist can do to get people so riled up.

SumeragiAkeiko said:

Again, are we sure those were actual men, or was the German glasses counting any and all sexual partners?

The point is she turned Ro into a real slut.

rom_collector said:

Nice try to justify someone who disses women as "used goods" only because they're not up to his selfish expectations of the true world. That tells much about your true self. I'm sorry but I don't buy it. I hope you're not one of those who try to rape women only because they use miniskirts and so "were asking for it".

I'm starting to notice the lack of that which makes us human beings around here too. But I suppose that's expected from those who arouse with fictional characters and have almost null knowledge of interacting with real people. Not saying everyone here are like that of course.

1. I'm a married girl, perhaps you shouldn't jump to conclusions about others.
2. If this admiral went around dissing every girl, then you might have a point. However, if you actually track the "growth" of this one, you'll see he did become a bit wiser. First he thought of Ashigara as a slut, but then realized perhaps such numbers are normal. Of course, he does lose his "faith" of the world, but he isn't really a dick about it. The only thing which might trigger response is his stance that "my first must be a virgin", but it's a very specific one, just that his first be with a virgin. Virginity can be special to people, and the fact the admiral wants his first to be with a virgin is an understandable thing.
3. Here you have a Maya who, while liking the admiral, isn't being too considerate of what the admiral himself wants. As noted above, admiral wants his first to be with a virgin. Maya, in her love for the admiral, is ignoring that stance and trying to find loopholes around it. If it is required that he be a dick to shut that down, I don't blame him. In fact, I support him.

Keo said:

Masara's comic sure does bring out hell of a discussion. The only time I ever see this much wall of text is usually when a post get flagged. It's pretty damn amazing, what an artist can do to get people so riled up.

That's what I respect about Masara. He knows how to touch off people and bring about their worst sides.

Pablete said:

The point is she turned Ro into a real slut.

Again, is that "slut" being with fellow kanmusus, or did she actually have relationships with men? We haven't been able to find out, and the only possible clue is the Masara Poll where he LEFT OUT RO when asking about which German kanmusu would likely be the sluttist.

Keo said:

Masara's comic sure does bring out hell of a discussion. The only time I ever see this much wall of text is usually when a post get flagged. It's pretty damn amazing, what an artist can do to get people so riled up.

Not all directly. I'm sure there are part of the discussion that's started from peoples reacting towards other peoples who react to the story.

Like the meme picture that says "I came here for the comments"
The series itself is more of a "recurring jokes" kind by now, with slight variation. But the readers keep reacting so emotionally every single time.

rom_collector said:

Stop being egoistical for a brief moment and repeat after me: "The problem is not to forcefully accept only because someone you don't want likes you, but dissing them like trash and find excuses to do so as justification ('There's a subordinate that loves Maya with all his might too')".

In the end you receive what you give.

Lets be egoistical here and let that guy die alone.
It's the mentality of having to fix all that's seen to be wrong in the world. He's a lost cause, let him die.
He's shooing the girls away from him, not trying to pull them into his little world. The closest thing that happen is telling them he wants virgin, but he doesn't force it on them, or even try to force them to stay virgin for him.
He doesn't let it interfere with his job, at least we don't see any discrimination during sorties. Even when the girls tease him about him being virgin, he keeps it in his monologues. He doesn't want to change and he doesn't force others to think like him or let his opinion stand on way for his other sides in life; for my selfish self, that's enough to let him be on his own.
Except Naka, she threatened to get him fired.

From Admiral's side, he know Maya wants him. Maya though, hopefully she can see what he wants, move on and be done with it... unless Masara saw she's a hit against readers and decide to use her as emotional fodder again.

And that other guy is not excuse, more like his late idea to of how he can hopefully ends Maya's approach.

In response to SHBr:

I agree with you and thank you for clarifying what I was saying. You see, you would act differently and, by most standards, more mature than this admiral here, but that is due to your experience and outlook. We don't know anything about this admiral's experiences or life before his introduction to the glasses. For all we know, he could have spent months or possibly years with this false image of the world that the navy, because why wouldn't they, cultivated even before he enlisted. For all we know, the world could have fucked him over long before even his birth, first by teaching him a false view of reality and then tricking him further until he gained the glasses. As said, we can't know, so its hard to judge, but at least in real life, if someone was that deeply lied to since birth, and they lashed out at the world due to said manipulation, it would be great if they moved on, but I can't fault them for not. In the end, there a number of possibilities, but really only two interpretations: Either he is a man clinging to some false ideals and baseless prejudices in hopes to achieve something that never truly existed, or a bitter man whose arrogance to move on has distanced himself from achieving something tangible. As with most things, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Should we hate him? Probably not, but should we agree with his actions? Most definitely not. I only feel pity and a weird sense of kinship with such an individual.

Masara will be delighted if he see this comment section. Is he aware that his pages posted here?

Wow, the comment section sure have heated up. Hey people, we're here to share opinions, not fight among ourselves for a difference in it, there's no need to attack other members just because they think differently... Especially when each person has a point. (not trying to tell you what you have to do, but I think it's better to calmly chat here instead of starting to diss people because they disagree)

Keo said:

Masara's comic sure does bring out hell of a discussion. The only time I ever see this much wall of text is usually when a post get flagged. It's pretty damn amazing, what an artist can do to get people so riled up.

Yeah, and I think it's pretty interesting to read and answer :3 Also, there's another case of wall of text, when it brings out History (I remember a big wall of text about USS Hoel and Johnson, Kongou, etc, in a comic about Naka; also very interesting to read).

SumeragiAkeiko said:

Is it idiocy to want to do one's first with a virgin and stick to that principle?

Have you ever heard of "being mean to be kind"? This Maya has been clinging onto him all this time despite his rebuffs. Sometimes you have to push hard against an unworkable, doomed fate.

I'm really starting to question people's standards here. It's bordering on hypocrisy.

My opinion on the matter is that's you're right, but not quite(still my opinion, I'm not sayin you're fundamentally wrong or anything)... First, I agree, the virgin criteria is one among others, and I don't blame him on that. While I do blame him for being a dick with Maya, it's not exactly what I would call "being mean for being kind", but I'll come back at that later. So, okay, he wants a virgin, that's fine. He never dissed other shipgirls and all, bringing about the fact that "maybe it's normal". But, that doesn't change his state of mind. Wanting a virgin is fine, thinking a non-virgin is pretty much garbage is not. Refer to the "Tch, used goods" he said the last time. In the case of objects, I'd understand, a used one would be prone to malfunctions more than a brand new one. But he's thinking of women like objects then, and that's pretty much what I find wrong in his opinion. "I want to do it with a virgin" is acceptable, "Non-virgins are garbage because they're used" is not. But then again, as he keeps that to himself, it's difficult to blame his behaviour as some tend to react only to what he does and others react to what he thinks too.

Also, being mean to be kind would apply here, if he was really thinking like that to begin with, because he shows the real reason right after. Demundo said it himself "I had my hopes up with his line in that 2nd frame", and judging from what the admiral said in the 3rd one, he's not being considerate about Maya and the other crush at all, because the reason "more than anything" IS the virgin criteria. So, while I understand being mean to be kind so that Maya can give up, I don't think he did it really on purpose...

About Ro, I wonder if it's not because she's considered "japanese" since her remodel from Yuu, as opposite to Z1, Z3 and Prinz who are still "german" and kept their german names.

And while I don't like the admiral's thinking, I do agree with Seika too: the admiral so far never let that interfere with his job. That's pretty pro of him.
(then again, if he discriminated girls about sorties, he wouldn't have much of a job since most of them are non-virgins, and and would get fired for incompetency if he has no battle records, no victories, no ressources collection or sank shipgirls?)

Also, I'd say the recurring jokes still generate this much reaction because it doesn't show him being "better", more understandable of people and just react according to his own thoughts without considering much about the shipgirls who serve only as his "need-for-a-virgin candidates" most of the time. I'd commend him on helping Ushio and willing to help Suzuya though, showing that he's not a pure asshole(even though he didn't help Shoukaku).

MentallyUnstable said:

In response to SHBr:

I agree with you and thank you for clarifying what I was saying. You see, you would act differently and, by most standards, more mature than this admiral here, but that is due to your experience and outlook. We don't know anything about this admiral's experiences or life before his introduction to the glasses. For all we know, he could have spent months or possibly years with this false image of the world that the navy, because why wouldn't they, cultivated even before he enlisted. For all we know, the world could have fucked him over long before even his birth, first by teaching him a false view of reality and then tricking him further until he gained the glasses. As said, we can't know, so its hard to judge, but at least in real life, if someone was that deeply lied to since birth, and they lashed out at the world due to said manipulation, it would be great if they moved on, but I can't fault them for not. In the end, there a number of possibilities, but really only two interpretations: Either he is a man clinging to some false ideals and baseless prejudices in hopes to achieve something that never truly existed, or a bitter man whose arrogance to move on has distanced himself from achieving something tangible. As with most things, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Should we hate him? Probably not, but should we agree with his actions? Most definitely not. I only feel pity and a weird sense of kinship with such an individual.

Yeah, everyone has a different experience, so I do believe Greendrag has a point in having a man-to-man talk with him to snap him out of his delusiosn and get a hold of how to act and how reality is(like, a superior he respects so that he doesn't feel like being just looked down, but in a way he thinks it's advices). After a good punch like Kongou's, because sometimes words don't reach your head until you see how bad you can act.
I don't like this admiral, but I can't say I hate him either, because well, he's gonna have a tough time on his own if he keeps thinking like he does. And the lack of another male fellow with another POV isn't helping him in understanding better (as he doesn't give much of a credit to the shipgirls, and the other male guys aren't really the kind to talk with him).
Then again, masara's story wouldn't be able to continue to entertain us if that admiral was mature enough to let all this slide.

That's it from me for now; I'll be away for a few days (until sunday at least) so if there's any reply I won't be able to answer right away. (also, if my long texts are bothering please tell me, I'll refrain a bit)

Somebody said: blah blah blah

>having a man-to-man talk with him
Why? For example, i like chocolate, maybe some people think that this love is bad\wrong\stupid. So they talked to me, and said me to stop to like cholotate. Sounds stupid. Why it must works with virginity?
Okay, Admiral was a bit rude. Chages plates with shit on toothbrushes. Nobody wants to use someone else's toothbrushes. And sex and relationship is more important then cleanliness of the oral cavity. Some people even don't like to drink from strangers/common bottles/cups.
And why Kongou hits him? If this did Maya that being understood. That conversation between Admiral and Maya not so bad. Ah, i get it. That because a girl crying, right? Always poor women.
И где Хибики в додзе? Или "Верный"? Вот она даже исторически была шлюшкой. Хорошо~

SumeragiAkeiko said:

Again, is that "slut" being with fellow kanmusus, or did she actually have relationships with men? We haven't been able to find out, and the only possible clue is the Masara Poll where he LEFT OUT RO when asking about which German kanmusu would likely be the sluttist.

It's Masara.

Do you really, REALLY think she didn't? For Masara being promiscuous works both with men AND women. No such thing as "yuri = pure" crap.

Also he didn't put Ro in the poll because the image posted was quite telling.

You know, I could have agreed with him, if he had rejected Maya in a less stupid way than, 'you're used goods'. Yeah, fine, he wants a virgin, he has to right to have one, but he doesn't have the right to insult those who aren't.

But now I'm at the edge of my seat, he's just telegraphed to the base how blunt and insensitive he can be.

An interesting idea is to put oneself in his shoes, which I'll do for myself right now:

I come to the base with the assumption that the kanmusu are pure maidens who will fawn over me and be my lovely companions. At first, things are just as I imagine and its pretty much paradise save for the occasional death in the field. I would have an affection for all my Kanmusu but in order to foster peace among them, I would keep deep romance out of it. Then, I manufacture the glasses out of curiosity and within the span of a day, my entire world is ruined. The vast majority of them already have lovers or live lifestyles I simply can't agree with. Those that desire me will hit a wall, as I can't help but see comparisons made to past lovers within their eyes. Sure, there are a few among with a clean slate just like me, but my drive to actually move those relationships forward has vanished because what if they don't desire me or are simply cases where they have not progressed yet like the others did, but would eventually. My ego and narcissism are destroyed and all that's left is a broken husk. Get real they say, real life doesn't work like that they say, well fuck that noise. I came here to get away from those conventions, to start anew, yet it was nothing but a honey trap. I will not conform to your way of life, even if it ends in my demise. I'll stay here for the time being, because I always finish what I start, but my trust in them is gone. Loyalty and devotion to a cause are all that keep this base together now. And after this war is over, it'll be time again, just like when I first came here, to start anew.

Pablete said:

It's Masara.

Do you really, REALLY think she didn't? For Masara being promiscuous works both with men AND women. No such thing as "yuri = pure" crap.

Also he didn't put Ro in the poll because the image posted was quite telling.

Yes, I really, REALLY think she didn't do it with men, assuming the German glasses showed all partners instead of the "only heterosexual relations" glasses the admiral has. Of course, the ambiguity is what Masara would have aimed for in the first place, to screw with people like you =3

bombermania said:

Masara will be delighted if he see this comment section. Is he aware that his pages posted here?

I have the say the artist would be quite delighted to see the shitstorm he/she brews from this comic alone.

Let me say my piece real quick. I believe that all of the party involve are to blame. Let's start with ship girls first. First off, the girls themselves have experience when it comes to love making. An example is Kongou, who has multiple partners to the point that outsiders' POV would call her a "slut." Here she claims that she will find Maya a good person for her, but isn't Kongou herself a bigger hypocrite as she couldn't even find a good person that would have a steady relationship with her? Then we have the admiral himself. Admiral isn't necessarily a bad person, but because of that glasses, he deluded himself that every time a ship girl has more than one sex partner he presumes them to be just a "slut." And lastly the base crew or nobodies. What baffles is how could the admiral himself let this go on? I partly blame the admiral for keeping the activities to go. But the outsiders or the base crew are majorly to blame here. They couldn't keep it in their pants as they fuck any ship girl(s) in the base.

So overall, everyone is to blame to this problem right now. Was admiral wrong here? No, but he could have worded differently to what he said to Maya. Instead, he sounded like an ass. He also has no backbone so he couldn't even discipline the base itself. Was Maya the fault here? No, but Kongou is. She's a hypocrite. Do I even need to mention that she teaches newbie ship girls to be a "slut?" What about the crew or outsiders? Well yes, as they suddenly just simply want to fuck any ship girls they see.

I believe that the only solution the admiral has is to transfer to another base or start a new one, and destroy the glasses. Or maybe tell the ship girls and/or maybe the crew themselves that he has the ability to see how many partners they have. And maybe grow a backbone while he's at it. Be like, "Sup, I can see how many partners you have. Stop doing it or else your I'll put you in the scrappers. As for the crew, act like a professional or I'll discharge you."

But in the end, this is a comic. So set back and relax. Just simply enjoy it as the artist continues to mock the demographic.

Greykar said:

>having a man-to-man talk with him
Why? For example, i like chocolate, maybe some people think that this love is bad\wrong\stupid. So they talked to me, and said me to stop to like cholotate. Sounds stupid. Why it must works with virginity?
Okay, Admiral was a bit rude. Chages plates with shit on toothbrushes. Nobody wants to use someone else's toothbrushes. And sex and relationship is more important then cleanliness of the oral cavity. Some people even don't like to drink from strangers/common bottles/cups.
And why Kongou hits him? If this did Maya that being understood. That conversation between Admiral and Maya not so bad. Ah, i get it. That because a girl crying, right? Always poor women.
И где Хибики в додзе? Или "Верный"? Вот она даже исторически была шлюшкой. Хорошо~

1 - The other alternatives given were execution and castration. I recon my option is leagues better.
2 - The main reason he needs a man-to-man talk is because he, at the moment, is a loner. Noone around he can confide in. He doesn't realize, that his obsession is not only going to end up making him miserable, but it also hurt the one woman in love with him. And I don't use the word obsession lightly there. Maya went through remodelling to regain her virginity, and was refused because she has a history with men (the grand total of two), even though technically her body is pure yet again.
3 - Oral hygene doesn't look important until you start losing teeth to it (well, to a lack of it). I speak from experience. I'd rather go abstinent for decades than let my teeth rot. So yeah, that analogy of yours is off by a country-mile.
4 - The reason why Kongou hit him was the same reason anyone above me wants to. He acted like an asshole, and that pisses people off.

CrimsonAirMode said:

... ... ...
I believe that the only solution the admiral has is to transfer to another base or start a new one, and destroy the glasses. Or maybe tell the ship girls and/or maybe the crew themselves that he has the ability to see how many partners they have. And maybe grow a backbone while he's at it. Be like, "Sup, I can see how many partners you have. Stop doing it or else your I'll put you in the scrappers. As for the crew, act like a professional or I'll discharge you."

But in the end, this is a comic. So set back and relax. Just simply enjoy it as the artist continues to mock the demographic.

The fist three options can be viewed as running away, while the last one is going againts the tide too much. He's kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place as to what to do, if he is not to change his standards at least a bit.

SumeragiAkeiko said:

3. Here you have a Maya who, while liking the admiral, isn't being too considerate of what the admiral himself wants. As noted above, admiral wants his first to be with a virgin. Maya, in her love for the admiral, is ignoring that stance and trying to find loopholes around it. If it is required that he be a dick to shut that down, I don't blame him. In fact, I support him.

Alternatively, you have someone getting desperate, clinging to whatever she can, just to get together with her love.

Also, the admiral's idiocy isn't really clinging to his ideal of wanting a virgin as his first partner. It's relying on the glasses too much.

I recon he would be over with the whole thing, if it wasn't for the glasses.

This all can end if one of the kansumus simply drug him or getting raped by a abyssal.

GreenDrag said:

Alternatively, you have someone getting desperate, clinging to whatever she can, just to get together with her love.

Also, the admiral's idiocy isn't really clinging to his ideal of wanting a virgin as his first partner. It's relying on the glasses too much.

I recon he would be over with the whole thing, if it wasn't for the glasses.

Some say that ignorance is a bliss. But then again, it would hurt him just as much when he finds out the hard way sooner or later.
It's not the glasses fault but just that the guy is acting like an immature self-centered jackass. If you like somebody, regardless of what they do (or how many people they do) you should still at the very least like them, even if you will only be friends.

At least with the glasses he'll be able to see the world for what it truly is; a depressing place that will fuck you in the ass with it's reality of you always being a number behind. I wonder why a person like him would even think otherwise. I guess he lived in a little happy world, thinking himself as the main character of something.
Poor man.

GreenDrag said:
2 - The main reason he needs a man-to-man talk is because he, at the moment, is a loner. Noone around he can confide in. He doesn't realize, that his obsession is not only going to end up making him miserable...

Better be alone than in a bad company

technically her body is pure yet again

Technically! Technically Hitler did not kill anyone. The point is not to defloration. Reason is...She had another man. If she used Dido, nobody would have care.

The reason why Kongou hit him was the same reason anyone above me wants to. He acted like an asshole, and that pisses people off.

So...Is it okay punch someone if he pissed you off?

Keo said:
If you like somebody, regardless of what they do (or how many people they do) you should still at the very least like them, even if you will only be friends.

What do mean? We must treat people regardless of their actions? Or what?

And why all of you don't like word "slut"?
wiki: Slut is a term applied to an individual who is considered to have loose sexual morals or who is sexually promiscuous.
Anyone who had more that 1 partners is a slut.

Eh he's more than likely projecting his own issues on to the Admiral as he's been doing stuff of this nature for at least 4 years (look at his touhou stuff)

The man seriously has some sort of complex (Not just number of sexual partners but dick size as well)

Greykar said:

Better be alone than in a bad company

Apart from his somewhat skewed views on the company we're talking about, have we seen anything truly noteworthy about most of his comrades inside the compound? (Of course Kongou, her buddy, and anyone they put their mitts on are the handful of exceptions)

Technically! Technically Hitler did not kill anyone. The point is not to defloration. Reason is...She had another man. If she used Dido, nobody would have care.

No, the point is that if you're expecting a sheltered princess to fall into your laps you don't have a license to be a jerk to anybody who isn't.
Also, nowadays (actually, it's probably always been like that), sex isn't the penultimate goal of a relationship, it's part of the course, so people, while looking for their match in life will end up having sexual relations with multiple people. If that is shocking to you, I've got to ask, how naive can you be?

So...Is it okay punch someone if he pissed you off?

It is not okay, but emotions are not that easy to control.

What do mean? We must treat people regardless of their actions? Or what?

And why all of you don't like word "slut"?
wiki: Slut is a term applied to an individual who is considered to have loose sexual morals or who is sexually promiscuous.
Anyone who had more that 1 partners is a slut.

That's a skewed view, if not outright fucked up. As I said above, sex is part of an ongoing relationship, not the holy grail of penultimate success. If a relationship doesn't go perfectly, and it ends up in a failure, should the woman no longer seek a relationship, lest she wishes to be a slut? And what about women, who get gangraped? Are they sluts as well?

So, unless you're being a troll, or someone from a country with relatively backwards views on women's rights, I sincerely recommend you reflect on your views on life, for they are far from realistic.

As the saying goes, "Look at reality!"

Greykar said:

And why all of you don't like word "slut"?
wiki: Slut is a term applied to an individual who is considered to have loose sexual morals or who is sexually promiscuous.
Anyone who had more that 1 partners is a slut.

Thine English hath let me down mightily.

Keo said:

Some say that ignorance is a bliss. But then again, it would hurt him just as much when he finds out the hard way sooner or later.
It's not the glasses fault but just that the guy is acting like an immature self-centered jackass. If you like somebody, regardless of what they do (or how many people they do) you should still at the very least like them, even if you will only be friends.

At least with the glasses he'll be able to see the world for what it truly is; a depressing place that will fuck you in the ass with it's reality of you always being a number behind. I wonder why a person like him would even think otherwise. I guess he lived in a little happy world, thinking himself as the main character of something.
Poor man.

However it would be far easier for him to get over it, than eternally run in circles and burn himself out. And no, that part is totally the glasses' fault. After seeing not only the harsh truth, but getting slapped into the face with the details, he became bitter, yet he still clings to the glasses for whatever reason. Most people had became little more than numbers for him. The number of people they had sex with their entire lives.

You know, everyone; well, almost everyone; knows that the world; at least as it is; is a horrible cesspool of depression and selfishness, but that doesn't mean, that people don't cover it up with some escapism and go on with their lives, ignoring the stench coming from the front door. However, while the admiral wears the glasses, he will be continously smelling that cesspool, while sitting neck-deep in it. Not something a person aiming to be sane does. And it will just keep getting worse. On the other hand, entertain this thought for me. If he took off the glasses right now, what would he lose? It's not like he would suddenly forget, that everyone at the base, their dogs and the flees on those dogs have had more partners in their lives than him, but at least he would be able to get some peace of mind not being constantly reminded of it. He might just be able to recover his ability to respect the people he talks to and end up being less of a jerk.

Also, every person is the main character of their lives. How that life will end up greatly (but not exclusively) depends on you as well.

I was thinking that I maybe some kind of masochist coming to read something that disgust me so much... But I finally felt good... I feel so relieved that he got the puch of justice in the face.

SumeragiAkeiko said:

Yes, I really, REALLY think she didn't do it with men, assuming the German glasses showed all partners instead of the "only heterosexual relations" glasses the admiral has. Of course, the ambiguity is what Masara would have aimed for in the first place, to screw with people like you =3

Or you who are as gullible as an otaku.

Pablete said:

Or you who are as gullible as an otaku.

Or you're just someone who don't want to realize you're being played with.

This is the first time I've had to scroll for comments. Wow, that caused a lot of hoo-haa.

Seriously. WTF Admiral?! Here's a girl that genuinely loves you, yet you shove her away? STAY A VIRGIN FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE YOU FUCKER!!!

seems people hate the truth he speaks.