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  • ID: 2179565
  • Uploader: OverCloudBeagle »
  • Date: over 9 years ago
  • Size: 212 KB .jpg (700x700) »
  • Source: pixiv.net/artworks/53703031 »
  • Rating: General
  • Score: 6
  • Favorites: 19
  • Status: Active

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kaga, bismarck, and littorio (kantai collection) drawn by sakazaki_freddy

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  • 【艦これ】搭載燃料【日独伊】

    参考:『日本海軍全艦艇史[資料篇]』『巨大戦艦ビスマルク』『ドイツ海軍の戦艦1939-1945』『世界の艦船1994★8増刊No.485 イタリア戦艦史』■追記:せっかくなので信濃のデータ追加しました。■追記2:信濃も朝日ソノラマ刊「幻の空母信濃」13ページにて「重油満裁量 8904トン」と記載があるそうです。

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    Blue Stuff
    over 9 years ago
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    I'm guessing this is a joke about how much the average person from their respective countries can drink?

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    thatjerk
    over 9 years ago
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    Blue_Stuff said:

    I'm guessing this is a joke about how much the average person from their respective countries can drink?

    That or how much fuel they can consume or carry?

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    Blue Stuff
    over 9 years ago
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    Going from google translate, it seems to be that.

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    AdventZero
    over 9 years ago
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    Bismarck: Commerce Raider.
    Kaga: Aircraft Carrier converted from a Battleship.
    Littorio/Italia: Battleship with half the combat range of the two above.

    Looks like we're gonna need more beer for Bismarck.

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    Historynerd
    over 9 years ago
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    Yes, the Littorio-class battleships had a rather small fuel load, also because the Pugliese underwater defense system took up quite a lot of space below the waterline.

    However, had they had a bigger fuel supply, it's not like they would have had a way to use it. The Mediterranean is not that big, and it would have been extremely unlikely (to say the least) to operate outside it.

    I'd also like to know why the author didn't take his time to draw something about the Roma's sinking, the anniversary of which was on September 9; we have a picture about the sinking of the Bismarck, we have one about the sinking of Yamato, I think he can spare some time to complete the trio, doesn't he?

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    SumeragiAkeiko
    over 9 years ago
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    Historynerd said:

    I'd also like to know why the author didn't take his time to draw something about the Roma's sinking, the anniversary of which was on September 9; we have a picture about the sinking of the Bismarck, we have one about the sinking of Yamato, I think he can spare some time to complete the trio, doesn't he?

    Who cares? Furthermore, he has no obligation to draw when he doesn't want to.

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    Historynerd
    over 9 years ago
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    SumeragiAkeiko said:

    Who cares? Furthermore, he has no obligation to draw when he doesn't want to.

    To me it seems that he draws these pictures regularly, so it does not seem to me that he lack the will to draw.

    Moreover, if one does all these pictures detailing all these aspects and anedoctes about WWII ships that are shown in Kancolle, such an event (not exactly small, if nothing else for the loss of lives) deserves a bit of attention.

    I'm not saying he absolutely has to do this; but it sure would be nice, and it would have been nicer to do so in the anniversary.

    Updated by Historynerd over 9 years ago

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    Tk3997
    over 9 years ago
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    Historynerd said:

    Yes, the Littorio-class battleships had a rather small fuel load, also because the Pugliese underwater defense system took up quite a lot of space below the waterline.

    However, had they had a bigger fuel supply, it's not like they would have had a way to use it. The Mediterranean is not that big, and it would have been extremely unlikely (to say the least) to operate outside it.

    A large fuel load or high efficiency isn't just a matter of range, fuel consumption spikes rapidly with increasing speed meaning fuel supply is also a key factor in how liberally one can utilize higher speeds in pre-combat positioning, battle maneuvering, and (if need be) retreat. The limited area they operated in somewhat compensated, but the very small fuel load was still a limitation (the fact the engineering plant wasn't that efficient only compounding the issue) as it somewhat retarded the use of the ships otherwise high speed in operational conditions.

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    Historynerd
    over 9 years ago
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    Tk3997 said:

    A large fuel load or high efficiency isn't just a matter of range, fuel consumption spikes rapidly with increasing speed meaning fuel supply is also a key factor in how liberally one can utilize higher speeds in pre-combat positioning, battle maneuvering, and (if need be) retreat. The limited area they operated in somewhat compensated, but the very small fuel load was still a limitation (the fact the engineering plant wasn't that efficient only compounding the issue) as it somewhat retarded the use of the ships otherwise high speed in operational conditions.

    Yes, Italian machinery (at least the normal kind with steam turbines, I do not know about the diesel engines that some smaller warships had) tended to be powerful but rather fuel-consuming.

    However, given that the situation of fuel supply discouraged long-duration missions, I do not think that the limitations in pre-tactical deployement ever mattered. Especially since June 1941, when basically the Regia Marina's directives more or less meant that the main naval forces would only be deployed in the Central Mediterranean to attack enemy forces entering the area in conjunction with submarines and aircrafts, the Littorio-class battleships were supposed to sortie, meet the enemy, fight the battle, then return to port.

    But the underlying issue remains, it has to be acknowledged. I think one of the technical reasons (there were others, of course) because the proposed redeployement of the Italia and the Vittorio Veneto in the Far East against the Japanese was not seriously considered was their short range.

    Updated by Historynerd over 9 years ago

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    smokeyandthebandit
    over 9 years ago
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    Never challenge a German or an Irishman to a drinking contest.

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    user 434448
    about 9 years ago
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    Whoa, Kaga. I didn't know you had it in you.

    Akagi would be proud .

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    I'm such a lightweight...
    Yeah! Don't look down on Deutschland!
    LITTORIO Fuel load 4210 tons
    At 2015.11.12, examining the ship's implemented fuel supply.
    KAGA (When Refit) Fuel Load 7500 tons
    (By the way, Yamato is 6400 tons. Shinano is 9000 tons.)
    It's a fuel load comparison!!
    BISMARCK Fuel load (Books also say 8000 tons) 8700 tons
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