The art just screams "I'm a Shizuma Yoshinori drawing!".

Oh hey, it's a shame that I anticipate her. I hate her fucking design.
Well, at least she's powerful. I'm going to wait her in my fleet.

Let's be honest. We weren't going to get Jeanex. In any case, welcome. *salute*

misaki!!!oh wait that an adult shimakaze turned atago

The Engrish here is just too much for me to handle.
"Me'd be Iowa class Battleship, Iowa"

No real objection aside from this.

Rukaroa said:

Let's be honest. We weren't going to get Jeanex. In any case, welcome. *salute*

Any design is fine, as long as not slutty like this.

Holy shit, I don't think jpeg_artifacts is severe enough for what's going on here.

cloud04 said:

misaki!!!oh wait that an adult shimakaze turned atago

Mikimiki except the star in the eyes
But those two looks alike anyway

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Oh hey, it's actually happening.

needmoarbaccano! said:

Any design is fine, as long as not slutty like this.

I like the design. It's not too bad. It actually pretty tasteful all things considered.

needmoarbaccano! said:

Any design is fine, as long as not slutty like this.

Implying murican is not slutty

needmoarbaccano! said:

Any design is fine, as long as not slutty like this.

If you've seen WW2 US military pinups, it's not far fetched.

now i can feel it freedom on the air

This is official?

Oh, well. Kinda hope for Yamato's counterpart. But still good to see her at least.

Also.looking at her design. I have a weird feeling that we might got a lively Nagamon' counterpart insted.

WE FREEDOM IN THIS

[Freedom Intensifies]

Her favorite drink is Texan Tea.

Well, it's official, the first Allied Kanmusu! Long blonde hair? Overflowing... "Displacement?" Was there ever going to be doubt for the first USN kanmusu? :D

Steak said:

Her favorite drink is Texan Tea.

Iowa doesn't have an official state drink.
Most Iowan drink beer, with Dickinson county being the most drunk of all.
The best selling brand liquor wise (aside for beer) is Black Velvet.

Well, it's official, the first Allied Kanmusu! Long blonde hair? Overflowing... "Displacement?" Was there ever going to be doubt for the first USN kanmusu? :D

Rukaroa said:

If you've seen WW2 US military pinups, it's not far fetched.

Not to mention the artist himself. Like this one with Akitsushima.
post #2229941
Sure, she's clothed heavily but dayummm

man, at least kongou's english was bearable. I dont think I can handle teas mixed with freedom and liberty

SiegLhein said:

man, at least kongou's english was bearable. I dont think I can handle teas mixed with freedom and liberty

I don't think I can handle admirals inserting "USA", "freedom" and "liberty" senselessly either. xD

EDIT: Do you see that English text below the art? That's exactly how a weeaboo sounds/reads like (retarded). Japanese have done that for decades so it looks kind of "normal", it doesn't mean it's normal in reverse. Please don't grammar like that ever.

rom_collector said:

I don't think I can handle admirals inserting "USA", "freedom" and "liberty" senselessly either. xD

You can also count "make America great again" to that list. Japanese haven't yet realized it, but I am seeing this flying around in everywhere else (not just 4chan or reddit or Himeuta)

panzerfan said:

The Engrish here is just too much for me to handle.
"Me'd be Iowa class Battleship, Iowa"

No real objection aside from this.

It's a me... Iowa!!!

panzerfan said:

Iowa doesn't have an official state drink.
Most Iowan drink beer, with Dickinson county being the most drunk of all.
The best selling brand liquor wise (aside for beer) is Black Velvet.

I am eagerly awaiting Iowa x Bismarck beer drinking contest art.

Should I approve this piece of freedom or not?

The only thing holding me is what this guy is saying:

OOZ662 said:

Holy shit, I don't think jpeg_artifacts is severe enough for what's going on here.

damn someone have already get her.it does i remember in vita ver there was a trophy about iowa class being deployed

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z905844 said:

Should I approve this piece of freedom or not?

The only thing holding me is what this guy is saying:

Eh, it's just a GET screenshot. Higher res art will come around eventually.

Bring on the Iowa doujins!

Can we approve of this then delete it once high-res art comes around?

Unless someone can rip off the CG off vita without killing the game, this is the best we are to have until she gets implemented in the browser game

16 INCH PENIS

I smell DEMOCRACY in the air.

Ingwis said:

I smell DEMOCRACY in the air.

tons and Tons of DEMOCRACY!!

DeadLock said:
Oh, well. Kinda hope for Yamato's counterpart. But still good to see her at least.

In a way, she IS Yamato's counterpart.
Yamato's motif is "being a Yamato Nadeshiko/perfect Japanese maiden".
Meanwhile, this Iowa's motif seems to be "USA supermodel/beauty pageant winner".

And they're both even drawn by the same artist.

I swore I look at adult version of Shoukou Misaki (To Aru Majutsu) when I saw her image.

Anyway, seems Kongou ... have *sunglasses* Engrish rival (both of them mixed english and japanese together in case you guys not get the idea)

I'm not in love with her design but I definitely don't hate it really. Honestly I'm just excited she's here and that she said "us".

I was kinda hoping they'd get an English speaking VA for her...

Yeah I know that was a farfetched idea.

first she has dakimakura worthy stock art, yo guess where we are going next?

Built-in AV features

https://twitter.com/noisy_sgr/status/701256136184373248

I really don't think this post should be approved. It's a screen grab and doesn't meet quality standards.

Rukaroa said:

If you've seen WW2 US military pinups, it's not far fetched.

Looking at a few, you're totally right.

And while her personality doesn't fit the calm, battle-hardened lady I was expecting, it does make sense in hindsight. She's the youngest battleship in the game, being launched in 1942, and she only has her WWII equipment so it makes sense for her to be immature here. Although that wouldn't really explain how Kongou, the oldest ship in the game, acts...

Hey look it's grown-up Shimakaze.

Blue_Stuff said:

Although that wouldn't really explain how Kongou, the oldest ship in the game, acts...

"You're only young once, but you can be immature forever"

yunashiku said:

damn someone have already get her.it does i remember in vita ver there was a trophy about iowa class being deployed

This is from the vita, said trophy requires you to clear the game

This guy cleared it at medium difficulty, barely scoring B victory in the final battle

I'm just going to wait for the first art of both canon and Pacific Iowa...

ALRIGHT!! NICE!! can't wait for her to join my fleet, yeah nice uh huhh...........(back to prinz eugen farming)

Well good, no cowboy hat. I would've preferred her to look more like the ship and less like the flag (talking about you, red sock) but definately not what I feared.

Blue_Stuff said:

Looking at a few, you're totally right.

And while her personality doesn't fit the calm, battle-hardened lady I was expecting, it does make sense in hindsight. She's the youngest battleship in the game, being launched in 1942, and she only has her WWII equipment so it makes sense for her to be immature here. Although that wouldn't really explain how Kongou, the oldest ship in the game, acts...

Iowa's design so closely matches that of the last link you posted that I'm convinced said image (or one like it) was the inspiration for her character design. It actually makes her design better in my eyes since it means her design has an actual basis in history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HijLPZ9CWjY
Something to savour this with.

panzerfan said:

The Engrish here is just too much for me to handle.
"Me'd be Iowa class Battleship, Iowa"

No real objection aside from this.

last night I dreamed I got Iowa, I cant remember how she looked other than busty and blonde. Otoh, she spoked like Liberty Prime in Fallout 3. This was predicably hilarious.

Waiting for the inevitable Clownpiece and Iowa crossover.

Shebadotfr said:

last night I dreamed I got Iowa, I cant remember how she looked other than busty and blonde. Otoh, she spoked like Liberty Prime in Fallout 3. This was predicably hilarious.

A reminder that democracy is non-negotiable.

When I think America, I don't really think Iowa, but that's what her leggings are supposed to tell me.

And now, for the first time, Kantai Collection has received it patriotic dose of FREEDOM and LIBERTY! Here's hoping to Enterprise next!

Oh, and Democracy is non-negotiable!

LoweGear said:

Iowa's design so closely matches that of the last link you posted that I'm convinced said image (or one like it) was the inspiration for her character design. It actually makes her design better in my eyes since it means her design has an actual basis in history.

I don't object to Iowa's design, or even the spirit of the item under discussion, but the thing you're talking about is... almost certainly a recent photoshop and not a ww2 pinup.

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aceofspudz said:

I don't object to Iowa's design, or even the spirit of the item under discussion, but the thing you're talking about is... almost certainly a recent photoshop and not a ww2 pinup.

Oh, well fuck me then. I'm pretty sure Iowa's design is based off of a real pinup from somewhere, though.

needmoarbaccano! said:

Any design is fine, as long as not slutty like this.

Yeah, lets not have slutty designs in a game where your boat waifus have their clothes torn off when they take enough damage, and you can marry them. All of them.

nofunallowed.jpg

aceofspudz said:

I don't object to Iowa's design, or even the spirit of the item under discussion, but the thing you're talking about is... almost certainly a recent photoshop and not a ww2 pinup.

Hmm, on closer examination, I guess it is.

However, considering how risqué the rest of the actual WW2 pinups and paraphernalia can get - seeing the German illustrations on their Tigerfibel, aka their Tiger tank operating manual, was quite illuminating, and of course bomber nose art of various sexy women - having Iowa be of similar disposition in clothing still makes sense.

Yes, which is why I didn't object to the spirit of it. Japanese were quite surprised by the sexy nose-cone art of crashed superfortresses. Especially the men.

Maybe moe is our fault?

aceofspudz said:

Yes, which is why I didn't object to the spirit of it. Japanese were quite surprised by the sexy nose-cone art of crashed superfortresses. Especially the men.

Maybe moe is our fault?

Now that's a really weird thought - the true origin of moe is actually from America!

As per Kashima's achievements, make sure to maintain a constant generation of 50++ fanarts everyday so that we can have the Nendoroid, Figma, AGP, scale figures, Medicchu, Dekacchu, Parform, Cupoche of Iowa announced in upcoming summer Wonfes

panzerfan said:

Iowa doesn't have an official state drink.
Most Iowan drink beer, with Dickinson county being the most drunk of all.
The best selling brand liquor wise (aside for beer) is Black Velvet.

I was referring to the fact that she guzzles oil, and back then most of the oil the US used came from Texas and surrounding states.

Blue_Stuff said:

Now that's a really weird thought - the true origin of moe is actually from America!

Weird? There's all that business with Tezuka and Betty Boop.

Oh boy. I want one already. Not just because she has a really neat design, but also I'm thinking she has some crazy stats.

The Iowa-class are really advanced warships right? Or am I just wrongly assuming things?

KageMahotsukai said:

Oh boy. I want one already. Not just because she has a really neat design, but also I'm thinking she has some crazy stats.

The Iowa-class are really advanced warships right? Or am I just wrongly assuming things?

The most powerful anti-air unit, the most accurate surface unit, and the fastest battleship ever built. All of this is more or less reflected in her stats, in credit to Kadokawa.

Does she come with 4 sets of Quad-Tomahawks and 4 sets of Quad-Harpoon Missiles ? :p

Blue_Stuff said:

Now that's a really weird thought - the true origin of moe is actually from America!

Betty Boop's the godmother of moe.

wait.... where did this picture come from ? it not officially right ?

honglong17 said:

wait.... where did this picture come from ? it not officially right ?

This is a screenshot straight out of the Vita game. 100% legit.

Hmmm, at first I thought it was Shimada who drew Iowa but then I looked again and knew that it was Shizuma's work. It's kinda funny how similar their artwork is in Kancolle until you notice some weird shit. Might be why Shizuma keeps drawing extra faces on whatever secondary mascot items the girls have.

Can't help but feel a bit....disappointed cause I was hoping for a new artist or something. Not asking for a great artist, just someone new and probably a new way and perspective on new ships. Not that I hate Shizuma, he probably tries but just....someone new and something new.

That being said, she's blonde. Shit, at this rate I have a feeling all the future US ships would just be the usual Western stereotypes.

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oracle135 said:

Does she come with 4 sets of Quad-Tomahawks and 4 sets of Quad-Harpoon Missiles ? :p

Coming soon in Fifth remodel, will only set you back four bragworth medals blueprint! Please look forward that-☆

Keo said:

That being said, she's blonde. Shit, at this rate I have a feeling all the future US ships would just be the usual Western stereotypes.

A bit cynical, considering that the Italian and German ships already have some variance.

aceofspudz said:

A bit cynical, considering that the Italian and German ships already have some variance.

The german ships were pretty stereotypically German though.
Gloomy, pale skin, Aryan with Max being the only one that was somewhat different because she didn't have blonde/white hair but that's not saying much. Maybe it's just that they're all drawn by one artist that just makes them all look boring.

The italian ships on the other hand I have to agree were much more different since it was by a different artist, which was why I was hoping that a different artist would draw for the American ships.

Well, I still hoping that if there are more future US ships that they would hire new artists. Otherwise I expect at least one of the US ships to have an American flag bikini or a cowboy hat or something equally stupid, but hopefully that won't happen.

cloud04 said:

misaki!!!oh wait that an adult shimakaze turned atago

Chagen46 said:

Hey look it's grown-up Shimakaze.

Which makes sense considering that naval legend about one of her sisters managing to outrun Shimakaze in combat conditions. Something which the US Navy will neither confirm nor deny.

In all seriousness, let's tally things up about her:
-Rarely fired her guns against surface warships
-Bit of a camwhore, even today
-Youngest battleship in the entire game
-Not a priority target and only received scratch damage throughout the course of the war

Yeah... this happy-go-lucky ditzy blonde seems about right.

Dear American Pig Devil,

You will wear a burqa and you will love it.

Love,
ISIS

I hate FREEDOM, but I want to take her home with me.

OOZ662 said:

Holy shit, I don't think jpeg_artifacts is severe enough for what's going on here.

You're right, it should look more like this.

Eboreg said:

Which makes sense considering that naval legend about one of her sisters managing to outrun Shimakaze in combat conditions. Something which the US Navy will neither confirm nor deny.

In all seriousness, let's tally things up about her:
-Rarely fired her guns against surface warships
-Bit of a camwhore, even today
-Youngest battleship in the entire game
-Not a priority target and only received scratch damage throughout the course of the war

Yeah... this happy-go-lucky ditzy blonde seems about right.

Almost everything can be said the same about the Yamato outside of the Battle of Leyte Gulf (which was brutally marred by a poor command decision to withdraw).

The game has always taken absurd lengths to hype the performance of the ships versus their actual record.

MMaestro said:

Almost everything can be said the same about the Yamato outside of the Battle of Leyte Gulf (which was brutally marred by a poor command decision to withdraw).

The game has always taken absurd lengths to hype the performance of the ships versus their actual record.

There are still some differences between the two. Iowa was not quite as much of a gas hog and she took part in a lot more action than Yamato, mostly carrier escort and shore bombardment. However, the biggest difference between the two is their current elevation.

Keo said:

Hmmm, at first I thought it was Shimada who drew Iowa but then I looked again and knew that it was Shizuma's work. It's kinda funny how similar their artwork is in Kancolle until you notice some weird shit. Might be why Shizuma keeps drawing extra faces on whatever secondary mascot items the girls have.

Can't help but feel a bit....disappointed cause I was hoping for a new artist or something. Not asking for a great artist, just someone new and probably a new way and perspective on new ships. Not that I hate Shizuma, he probably tries but just....someone new and something new.

That being said, she's blonde. Shit, at this rate I have a feeling all the future US ships would just be the usual Western stereotypes.

I hope not. I like blondes, but variety would be nice.

Ien_Teajay said:

Oh hey, it's actually happening.

...Only one man could see this coming!

Ingwis said:

I smell REPUBLIC in the air.

Joker.Hat said:

tons and Tons of FREEDOM!!

Fixed it for ya!

Ahegao said:

Dear American Pig Devil,

You will wear a burqa and you will love it.

Love,
ISIS

Over our dead bodies, you may intimidate our leaders, but we the people are itching to bring you the pain.

I completely forgot about this. Now I have to rethink my entire team....The sadness knows no other.

Eboreg said:

There are still some differences between the two. Iowa was not quite as much of a gas hog and she took part in a lot more action than Yamato, mostly carrier escort and shore bombardment. However, the biggest difference between the two is their current elevation.

Sure, but thats artistic license for you.

Lets not forget that Kancolle is a Japan-only game (yes, there are ways around it, but those don't count). Its only natural that the Japanese characters would be elevated higher than the non-Japanese characters.

The Americans didn't have to worry about oil though, since they were the number one producer on the planet in that decade. Other countries had oil as a scarce war resource and it was in limited qualities for the military for the most part. In the United States? Cars, and more cars. Oil run turbines for power and industry. The much of the fleet converted to oil burning. Oil everywhere.

Metals and rubber were the American's problems. Rubber because a lot of the sources were in or near the war zones, and metal because we were building a gigantic military to come over and crush Nazi Germany, and then Japan. Also a huge number of transports and freighters to outdo the U-boats ability to sink them.

I can't help but feel disappointed in the face of work by november and other people. His work, and others like https://danbooru.donmai.us/data/d624fb392673fdae4e38fbbd19f2c9c1.jpg
post #1428133
are excellent, which manage to merge designs from the actual ships, US navy uniforms, history, obligatory american stereotypes and a sense of balance and restraint that this Iowa just doesn't.

She's so painfully... Generic. no basis for uniform, acts like kongou, looks like atago, dresses like maya.
they really missed an opportunity here.

I'm reasonably sure the text should actually translate to, if you want to keep context and structure, more or less, (Their engrish parts are in caps, and use a drawling accent)
"HI! AH'm IOWA-class battleship IOWA. YOU this fleet's ADMIRAL huh?"...and the rest I have no idea as I can't read kana.

That's if Japanese grammar is like Chinese (which it should be given kanji is literally Chinese characters). This both retains structure and probably is accurate to the text (though I can't read kana, I do know that messing up I and Me is fairly common for people not too great at English)

Guardian54 said:

That's if Japanese grammar is like Chinese (which it should be given kanji is literally Chinese characters).

Modern Japanese grammar is nothing like Chinese. Just because they share part of a writing system doesn't mean that they're anything alike. They're not even in the same language family. That's like saying that Basque and English grammar are the same since they share the Roman alphabet.

Paracite said:

Modern Japanese grammar is nothing like Chinese. Just because they share part of a writing system doesn't mean that they're anything alike. They're not even in the same language family. That's like saying that Basque and English grammar are the same since they share the Roman alphabet.

That's crazy talk, next you will be saying Russian and Ukrainians speak different languages.

Guardian54 said:

I'm reasonably sure the text should actually translate to, if you want to keep context and structure, more or less, (Their engrish parts are in caps, and use a drawling accent)
"HI! AH'm IOWA-class battleship IOWA. YOU this fleet's ADMIRAL huh?"...and the rest I have no idea as I can't read kana.

That's if Japanese grammar is like Chinese (which it should be given kanji is literally Chinese characters). This both retains structure and probably is accurate to the text (though I can't read kana, I do know that messing up I and Me is fairly common for people not too great at English)

Modern Japanese and Modern Chinese share many lexical similarities, yes, but sentence structure-wise Chinese is far closer to English than Japanese.

(And Chinese and English are dissimilar enough.)

Chinese is remarkably devoid of grammar, compared to most other languages. Almost all words lack inflection (modification to words, e.g. swim/swims/swimming), so concepts like tense and number cannot be expressed grammatically.

MMaestro said:

Sure, but thats artistic license for you.

Lets not forget that Kancolle is a Japan-only game (yes, there are ways around it, but those don't count). Its only natural that the Japanese characters would be elevated higher than the non-Japanese characters.

What I meant is that Iowa is currently at sea-level, Yamato is not.

Blue_Stuff said:

Looking at a few, you're totally right.

And while her personality doesn't fit the calm, battle-hardened lady I was expecting, it does make sense in hindsight. She's the youngest battleship in the game, being launched in 1942, and she only has her WWII equipment so it makes sense for her to be immature here. Although that wouldn't really explain how Kongou, the oldest ship in the game, acts...

The last one is probably THE inspiration for Iowa's design

Paracite said:

Modern Japanese grammar is nothing like Chinese. Just because they share part of a writing system doesn't mean that they're anything alike. They're not even in the same language family. That's like saying that Basque and English grammar are the same since they share the Roman alphabet.

I must be delusional given how much I can figure out if there's a reasonable amount of Kanji in the text then.
Oh well...
May I remind you that Latin alphabet is combinatoric while Chinese characters (admittedly partly combinatoric) are a vastly larger number of mostly self-contained blocks? Of course this meant that the Chinese inventing the printing press was actually a harder work than a LAtin language would have had it due to the sheer number of wooden blocks needing to be carved... or maybe it was BECAUSE of all the characters that people got tired of writing stuff repeatedly and invented a press to do it????

Hmm...

NNescio said:

Modern Japanese and Modern Chinese share many lexical similarities, yes, but sentence structure-wise Chinese is far closer to English than Japanese.

(And Chinese and English are dissimilar enough.)

Chinese is remarkably devoid of grammar, compared to most other languages. Almost all words lack inflection (modification to words, e.g. swim/swims/swimming), so concepts like tense and number cannot be expressed grammatically.

I wish comments could be added to pools, because this would go in "I will never see this the same way again".

For example, "I believe you have issues" (as in mental issues) is literally the exact same structure in English and Chinese.
Holy crap.

Dutch is similar enough to English that I can usually hash out a (reasonably poor) understanding of a sentence well enough - but this doesn't mean that I can actually speak or read it. I can also do the same to Chinese, since I did enough Classical Japanese to have a basic grounding in Chinese grammar, but I'd never say that I can actually read Chinese.

History time! Japanese started using kanji for much the same reason that Korean did, in that the language spoken by the learned elite was classical Chinese - that's what they knew and that's what they used, so when it came to developing a writing system for their own languages, they based it off Chinese, taking over the characters wholesale.

All this leads to is the content words having quite a few 1:1 mappings (i.e. Nouns, verbs and adjectives), but without knowing how the words have been conjugated, getting a good understanding outside of fairly simple sentences becomes quite difficult; not to mention all the times that Japanese uses a different character than Chinese does for a similar/same concept. Japanese (used) to be classed as a language isolate, as is Korean and Basque, i.e. they have no known root for their development (A lot of Asian languages come from Chinese roots, and Romance languages are (currently) considered to come from Proto-Indo-european via Latin).

While Japan can be comprehended on the basis of root content words alone, once you get out of short, simple sentences and into longer ones with embedded clauses, it rapidly becomes impossible get a proper understanding. Or in short: vocabulary ≠ grammar. Without a grounding in grammar, it becomes just guessing as to how the words are being used (which is admittedly much, much, easier when there's pictures to go with the words)

Also, Latinate movable type is simpler than Chinese, but movable type is a fairly recent invention in printing technology - whole-page woodblock (and later metal) prints were around a long time previously - which makes the complexity a moot point.

Paracite said:

Also, Latinate movable type is simpler than Chinese, but movable type is a fairly recent invention in printing technology - whole-page woodblock (and later metal) prints were around a long time previously - which makes the complexity a moot point.

I am reasonably sure the Chinese claimed to invent movable type, simply because character blocks made making movable type look good very easy compared to English where character widths differ (do you really want the same block width for l and O for example? It would look ugly in most fonts...)

Fairly recent when compared to solid-page printing. But yes, movable type was developed in China around 1000ADish, using ceramics; with metal typesetting coming in much later .(Gutenburg's press followed pretty soon after the Korean one though) However, due to the complexity of character-based languages, it was prohibitively expensive and overly fiddly, meaning that it didn't really take off until better metal machining techniques and tools became available. It took almost as long to compose a page out of movable type as it took to just do it woodblock, which meant that unless you were doing a large print run (which given the level of literacy, was fairly unlikely), there was no really impetus to use (and therefore develop further) movable type.

So while movable type was available, the vast majority of printing was still done in wood- (or metal-)block until fairly recently (in historical terms) in Asia.

Fun fact! The terms Upper Case and Lower Case come from typesetting, where capital letters tended to be in a box up top, and the smaller ones in the box on the bottom. Literally, in the Upper and Lower case.

How did this turn into a debate about languages?
What personally what got me thinking is that if this is "official art" then wouldn't this be the first non-axis warship?
I'm mean, if it took them this long to have one, I honestly think they are just doing this as a counter to Warship Girls(Zhan_jian_shao_nyu) sense that game is filled with Allies warships.

TheGreens said:

I can't help but feel disappointed in the face of work by november and other people. His work, and others like https://danbooru.donmai.us/data/d624fb392673fdae4e38fbbd19f2c9c1.jpg
post #1428133
are excellent, which manage to merge designs from the actual ships, US navy uniforms, history, obligatory american stereotypes and a sense of balance and restraint that this Iowa just doesn't.

She's so painfully... Generic. no basis for uniform, acts like kongou, looks like atago, dresses like maya.
they really missed an opportunity here.

The "no basis for uniform" part is something I disagree with, since for the most part it does seem based on the kind of risqué portrayals of US Navy uniforms seen in ads (even if the specific example provided in this very page is kind of in question).

Also, Kancolle's Iowa has the advantage of actually having elements of the ship she's based on when it comes to her design, so it's clear that she's supposed to be the USS Iowa as a girl, rather than the Pacific example of being "girls first, ship second" (Morgane's own words). Here's an excellent image showing Kancolle's Iowa's cues from the real life ship:

http://i.imgur.com/f5wJAxe.png

In contrast, while Pacific's version of Iowa is impeccably designed, she really just gives off the impression of a woman who's simply named "Iowa".

Finally, you're talking "sense of restraint" in a game where fanservice is the norm. I mean, your own Enterprise example wears nothing but a bikini for her bottom, and "obligatory American stereotype" doesn't really apply to your USS Missouri example (long black hair and glasses isn't exactly an American stereotype). Finally, they just pepper all the guns and metal parts all over the ship, which is hardly an example of "restraint", whereas the Kancolle Iowa keeps the metal parts to a minimum while still being meaningful.

So is she able to get the 1980s refit?

Zelinkokitsune said:

So is she able to get the 1980s refit?

Probably not, that might break game balance in half.

She did reference to her 1980s refit in one of her line, though.

If only she came out about 3 weeks earlier, she'd be just in time for the caucus.

sky1942 said:

I'm mean, if it took them this long to have one, I honestly think they are just doing this as a counter to Warship Girls(Zhan_jian_shao_nyu) sense that game is filled with Allies warships.

People really need to stop thinking it's a contest between two games trying to one up each other. It's not. Tanaka have his own idea of how to pace the game with new mechanics and new shipgirls. We can guess that KC devs want to avoid punishing the newbies while still keeping interest from the KC grognards. Look at other games, like F/GO, where new things, in limited edition, are released every few weeks to never be seen again (like how people who started this year in F/GO may not have a chance to get Scathach ever again, etc...)

KC was firstly intended as a IJN centric moe browser game, with an unexpected success where Allies eventually came into their planning because, well, they are out of IJN capital ships and its doubtful that veterans will enjoy having nothing but more Yuugumo or other trophy DDs.

panzerfan said:

Iowa doesn't have an official state drink.
Most Iowan drink beer, with Dickinson county being the most drunk of all.
The best selling brand liquor wise (aside for beer) is Black Velvet.

I’m sorry but when I say, Iowan, I can only here Ireland. I- I just needed to get that off my chest.