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  • ID: 2406988
  • Uploader: OverCloudBeagle »
  • Date: almost 9 years ago
  • Size: 231 KB .jpg (800x800) »
  • Source: seiga.nicovideo.jp/seiga/im5910216 »
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nagato and iowa (kantai collection) drawn by sakazaki_freddy

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  • 【艦これ】それどの海戦?【日米】

    参考:「第二次大戦米国海軍作戦年誌」など

    [KanColle] Which Battle? [Japanese-American]

    Source: ”The Official Chronology of the U.S. Navy in World War II” et al.

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    aceofspudz
    almost 9 years ago
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    Judging from JP wiki, modern Japanese have gotten the idea that 'naval battle of Hawaii' doesn't really give an accurate impression of what happened and now use the U.S. title.

    Not that Nagato is modern. She can't even use a cellphone.

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    pwnagemaster
    almost 9 years ago
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    Why the long face, Nagato?

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    NNescio
    almost 9 years ago
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    pwnagemaster said:

    Why the long face, Nagato?

    Longgate is long.

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    Estavali
    almost 9 years ago
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    I think it's stuff like this (different names for the same thing/event) that could drive historians crazy (or send the masochistic ones into an ecstasy) =w=

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    bakudan00
    almost 9 years ago
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    Was there another example of battles in history that had different names depending on which sides you ask?

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    garpun
    almost 9 years ago
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    bakudan00 said:

    Was there another example of battles in history that had different names depending on which sides you ask?

    US Civil War. The Confederates mostly used the names of the nearest town. The Union mostly used the names of the nearest body of water. The battles of Bull Run (after a stream) are also known as the battles of Manassas in the south.

    But other wars were like that too. In the Austro-Prussian war, some called it Königgrätz, others called it Sadowa (but a hundred fifty years later they mostly call it the former rather than the latter). Both were names of towns.

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    BelchingSpitfire
    almost 9 years ago
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    bakudan00 said:

    Was there another example of battles in history that had different names depending on which sides you ask?

    Another is how the USSR called World War 2 the Great Patriotic War

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    Type-kun
    almost 9 years ago
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    MajorAmiruddin said:

    Another is how the USSR called World War 2 the Great Patriotic War

    Well, not exactly. The terms are distinct, GPW refers to a specific part of WWII, fought on eastern front from 22 June 1941 to 9 May 1945. Many people don't bother to differ the two, though.

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    bakudan00
    almost 9 years ago
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    Anybody knows what is this on the commentary refer to?
    "第二次大戦米国海軍作戦年誌"

    I believe it's based on an actual documented records in US Navy. I just need an actual name for accuracy sake.

    EDIT: Googling the exact name brings to a Japanese published book in 1956. So i guess i just leave it at that.

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    NNescio
    almost 9 years ago
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    bakudan00 said:

    Anybody knows what is this on the commentary refer to?
    "第二次大戦米国海軍作戦年誌"

    I believe it's based on an actual documented records in US Navy. I just need an actual name for accuracy sake.

    EDIT: Googling the exact name brings to a Japanese published book in 1956. So i guess i just leave it at that.

    The Official Chronology of the U.S. Navy in World War II.

    The Japanese title and the 1956 publication are, IIRC, translations of an older edition.

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    BelchingSpitfire
    almost 9 years ago
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    Type-kun said:

    Well, not exactly. The terms are distinct, GPW refers to a specific part of WWII, fought on eastern front from 22 June 1941 to 9 May 1945. Many people don't bother to differ the two, though.

    Oh? Sorry my bad, looks like my knowledge on World War 2 is rusty

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    bakamann
    almost 9 years ago
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    Iowa's face looks like she is totally being sarcastic.

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    SkyStream
    almost 9 years ago
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    Estavali said:

    I think it's stuff like this (different names for the same thing/event) that could drive historians crazy (or send the masochistic ones into an ecstasy) =w=

    Irks us translators quite a bit too.

    bakudan00 said:

    Anybody knows what is this on the commentary refer to?
    "第二次大戦米国海軍作戦年誌"

    I believe it's based on an actual documented records in US Navy. I just need an actual name for accuracy sake.

    EDIT: Googling the exact name brings to a Japanese published book in 1956. So i guess i just leave it at that.

    Freddy always leaves his sources in commentary. I generally don't bother to translate them, especially since the sources are virtually always Japanese-only, but you're free to do so.

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    BrokenEagle98
    over 8 years ago
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    MD5 mismatch of http://seiga.nicovideo.jp/seiga/im5910216

    SourceMD5 HashTypeDimensionsFilesize
    Danbooruef3a94489534dc65612f3868ea41d4d2jpg(800, 800)236169
    Nicoseiga61602652a5451d9ea1452bdc44c6787ejpg(800, 800)339111

    Updated by BrokenEagle98 over 5 years ago

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    Eboreg
    almost 8 years ago
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    Battle of Bonomisaki - Operation Ten-Gou

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