is it still netorare if it's your younger other self?

Can we just give a round of applause to all the fans that clowned on this chapter? The author is clearly off his rocker, so edits like this may not only get him to see reason, but as well, give fans the perfect outlet to release their disfavor upon.

Rimuru said:

is it still netorare if it's your younger other self?

When your younger other self won't become you? Absolutely.

Of course, it can't be NTR because Archer never got into a relationship, or fucked.

MentallyUnstable said:

Can we just give a round of applause to all the fans that clowned on this chapter? The author is clearly off his rocker, so edits like this may not only get him to see reason, but as well, give fans the perfect outlet to release their disfavor upon.

This is the scene where the guy blew his load at imagining himself getting cucked right?

warellis said:

This is the scene where the guy blew his load at imagining himself getting cucked right?

Yep. To be fair, its half cucked since the girl had rejected him at this point.

MentallyUnstable said:

Yep. To be fair, its half cucked since the girl had rejected him at this point.

So wait, if a girl turns you down, it's getting "half cucked" if she EVER does it with ANYONE? That would make basically anyone who has ever been turned down (which would presumably be the overwhelming majority) "half cucks" unless they responded to rejection with immediate murder or something.

NWSiaCB said:

So wait, if a girl turns you down, it's getting "half cucked" if she EVER does it with ANYONE? That would make basically anyone who has ever been turned down (which would presumably be the overwhelming majority) "half cucks" unless they responded to rejection with immediate murder or something.

You misunderstand me. What I meant by this statement was simply that all the "cucking" in this situation is coming from 1 party, Kazuya. He's cucking himself by thinking about it as opposed to, you know, moving on. Since Chizuru rejected him and is probably not fucking anyone else (meaning her rejection is not due to another romantic interest), there is no "cucking" taking place on her end, hence why I said "half".

Not only the author is aware that his chapter 218 got bashed world wide, both him and his editorial are trying to damage control telling fans "please this chapter doesn't affects future developments, please don't read it" while the wditor is telling chapter 220 will have a total "real shocking development" which fans can only raise an eyebrow because chapters ago they said the same exact lines and instead they got MC being not rejected.
Not even his best friend Hiroyuki (Aho Girl, Kanojo mo Kanojo) defends him and instead dissed him in the magazine they work for.

8 pages of a NTR delusion is what triggered the fandom and even dragged non fans to mock/complain/jump on the wagon.
His only way out is that in the future the author gives the exact mount if not more pages showing MC having sex with the MH (he has time before the series end) otherwise he's done for like KamiNomi's Wakaki whose career was over after the controversial Chihiro ship + fuck the Devil plot ending.

warellis said:

When your younger other self won't become you? Absolutely.

Of course, it can't be NTR because Archer never got into a relationship, or fucked.

This is the scene where the guy blew his load at imagining himself getting cucked right?

No, he only bawled his eyes while drowning in a pool, he didn't cum.

MentallyUnstable said:

You misunderstand me. What I meant by this statement was simply that all the "cucking" in this situation is coming from 1 party, Kazuya. He's cucking himself by thinking about it as opposed to, you know, moving on. Since Chizuru rejected him and is probably not fucking anyone else (meaning her rejection is not due to another romantic interest), there is no "cucking" taking place on her end, hence why I said "half".

There was no rejection, she didn't say anything however MC interpreted her running (for reasons unknown to him) as rejection.

Wilfriback said:

There was no rejection, she didn't say anything however MC interpreted her running (for reasons unknown to him) as rejection.

Thanks for the clarification.

Also, if what you are saying in regards to their backpedaling is true, then this is truly one of the funniest things to happen in the manga industry in a while. I can appreciate what he was going for in a conceptual sense (the fall before the rise), but its clear he didn't give it nearly enough thought before putting it out there. If I were him, I would just straight up REMAKE the chapter so that it makes more sense with the ongoing character developments. Its okay to admit that you were wrong and instead give the fans something more in-line with the stories preexisting tones.

Wilfriback said:

otherwise he's done for like KamiNomi's Wakaki whose career was over after the controversial Chihiro ship + fuck the Devil plot ending.

Would you mind extrapolating on this? I didn't know there was a controversy over those things.

MentallyUnstable said:

Would you mind extrapolating on this? I didn't know there was a controversy over those things.

From what I remember:
Most popular girls got rejected without being properly rejected to their faces.
MC just takes a walk, goes to Chihiro and tells her he likes her, she be like wut?
Every shipper out there loses it because there was no build up for that moment, just a past arc where she gets rejected. So shit posters and her fans rationalize it as him starting to love her in secret afterwards because she was different.jpg
Main heroine gets reduced to a joke character, the other main heroine gets sidelined
Time travel for the heck of it introducing characters that aren't relevant in the present storyline
And the plot about the agents from True Hell bringing war with Goddesses on Earth gets solved off screen while MC says that it was his plan all along, which plan you may ask? We don't know yet.
Tankoubon extra pages: non rejected girls say they're not giving up yet haha

Now mix this and the author's career was done for. Any new work he tried afterwards gets quickly axed. Props to him for still trying.

Wilfriback said:

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Now mix this and the author's career was done for. Any new work he tried afterwards gets quickly axed. Props to him for still trying.

Damn, I stopped reading the manga after a few dozen chapters because I didn't want to make the commitment, but it looks like I dodged a bullet! Its a shame though since the concept of the series was sound and those first few arcs were so good. This may also explain why the anime stopped at season 3.

I would love to see an interview where the author is questioned for his thought process and decisions. Maybe it was an effect of the higher-ups demanding changes, having to quickly end the manga, or something else? Or perhaps he made a grave misstep that cost him his entire career? Or he's just an asshole? A fuck up of this level needs answers.

This feels like the "loss" of our generation.

Saladofstones said:

This feels like the "loss" of our generation.

Loss is eternal, it cannot die.