The main Bayo is bi too though, she's flirting with Luka from the moment they first meet.
Bayo isn’t bi. There is literally no basis to that. There’s more evidence she liked Luca than there is for any other character. And even then, it’s never actually outright confirmed. Also the young bayo being a different bayo is a retcon anyways.
The biggest take away from this is that apparently no one played 3. Everyone that's talking about this know absolutely nothing, the people being homophobic basement dwellers and the ones crying about queerbaiting don't even know that the original Bayonetta is basically on a couples vacation with Jeanne. The loudest voices are the homophobics with their constant shinzo Abe memes showing how much of a weeaboo they are because Abe did dick all for prospective parents
The biggest take away from this is that apparently no one played 3. Everyone that's talking about this know absolutely nothing, the people being homophobic basement dwellers and the ones crying about queerbaiting don't even know that the original Bayonetta is basically on a couples vacation with Jeanne. The loudest voices are the homophobics with their constant shinzo Abe memes showing how much of a weeaboo they are because Abe did dick all for prospective parents
Couples vacation? You never went cross country with your friends huh?
The biggest take away from this is that apparently no one played 3. Everyone that's talking about this know absolutely nothing, the people being homophobic basement dwellers and the ones crying about queerbaiting don't even know that the original Bayonetta is basically on a couples vacation with Jeanne. The loudest voices are the homophobics with their constant shinzo Abe memes showing how much of a weeaboo they are because Abe did dick all for prospective parents
Neither of them are gay for each other. Their love is familial love since they are sisters in their coven.
It seems that, in recent times, no two characters of the same sex can be friends without being instantly labeled as homo. Like it's been done with Bayonetta and Jeanne.
Is is that hard to believe people can love one another without it being a sexual romantic love? Did we reduce "love" to only one form, the sexual one, in modern society?
It seems that, in recent times, no two characters of the same sex can be friends without being instantly labeled as homo. Like it's been done with Bayonetta and Jeanne.
Is is that hard to believe people can love one another without it being a sexual romantic love? Did we reduce "love" to only one form, the sexual one, in modern society?
Of the seven loves, Ceresa and Jeanne's is Phila, or affectionate love one feels for family. Of the seven loves, Ceresa and Luca's is either Eros, love of the body or Ludus Playful love.
It seems that, in recent times, no two characters of the same sex can be friends without being instantly labeled as homo. Like it's been done with Bayonetta and Jeanne.
Is is that hard to believe people can love one another without it being a sexual romantic love? Did we reduce "love" to only one form, the sexual one, in modern society?
Honestly I think people nowdays can't really tell the difference between friendship and "same sex love" thing.
It seems that, in recent times, no two characters of the same sex can be friends without being instantly labeled as homo. Like it's been done with Bayonetta and Jeanne.
Is is that hard to believe people can love one another without it being a sexual romantic love? Did we reduce "love" to only one form, the sexual one, in modern society?
Why does Luka and Bayo's love need to be romantic/sexual? Couldn't they have a platonic, non-romantic love?
What I mean is, when a man and a woman are in close proximity in a story, I see very few objections to reading them as romantic. But when two women are, or two men, people call it the death of platonic love and a horrible narrowing of the possibilities of human relationships. Why is that not the case when it's a heterosexual couple, that love is being reduced to only one form?
What I mean is, when a man and a woman are in close proximity in a story, I see very few objections to reading them as romantic. But when two women are, or two men, people call it the death of platonic love and a horrible narrowing of the possibilities of human relationships. Why is that not the case when it's a heterosexual couple, that love is being reduced to only one form?
Nice of you to ignore the decade of complaining for forced love story in media.
And that was before homosexuality representation was commonly accepted in mainstream media.
Nice of you to ignore the decade of complaining for forced love story in media, people had for.
And that was before homosexuality representation was commonly accepted in mainstream media.
I feel like this is conflating two separate issues. There has been, and is, plenty of complaining about the overdone trope of the protagonist always having a love interest, and how contrived their relationship can be, yeah. But that doesn't really have anything to do with the very true statement that if you have two characters of opposite sex in a story, there's very little fuss made over the idea of them being shipped, canonically or not. It's nearly always treated as a matter of course, regardless of whether people like that it's being done or not.
But have two same sex characters, and anything less than outright stating attraction between them is dismissed, and if they are outright stated to be attracted then people complain, way more than if the pairing was straight.
Ship a straight couple, and people will argue about how/why they do or don't make a good couple; Ship a gay couple, and people argue that they're not gay, and start complaining about how no one can just be friends anymore, even though straight characters have always been subject to excessive shipping and nothing about this is new.
You can literally see all of these thing in these comments. This comment is literally suggesting this is a recent problem with same sex shipping, despite hetero shipping doing the exact same thing for decades.
But have two same sex characters, and anything less than outright stating attraction between them is dismissed, and if they are outright stated to be attracted then people complain, way more than if the pairing was straight.
It's more normal to ship a man and a woman together because they are biologically compatible. Not to mention inter -relation chemistry is much easier between the two sexes. Homosexual relationships are trumpetted and announced loudly as a spectacle for the player to gawk at. You can brothers from other mothers or sisters from different misters yeah, but people are getting tired of "suddenly they're gay" in normally very platonic relationships to score brownie points from people who don't care about the medium and only hype it up for agenda.
It's more normal to ship a man and a woman together because they are biologically compatible. Not to mention inter -relation chemistry is much easier between the two sexes. Homosexual relationships are trumpetted and announced loudly as a spectacle for the player to gawk at. You can brothers from other mothers or sisters from different misters yeah, but people are getting tired of "suddenly they're gay" in normally very platonic relationships to score brownie points from people who don't care about the medium and only hype it up for agenda.
For starters the first two sentences are complete bullshit. Second, the only reason people are even able to make a big deal out of gay relationships is because society at large is still stuck in that retarded mindset of gay relationships being " special" and different from a narrative perspective from straight relationships. And lastly, a poorly written relationship will be crap regardless of whether it's gay or straight. Hell, this shit is even more prevalent in straight relationships in media because that shit's ubiquitous.
It's more normal to ship a man and a woman together because they are biologically compatible. Not to mention inter -relation chemistry is much easier between the two sexes. Homosexual relationships are trumpetted and announced loudly as a spectacle for the player to gawk at. You can brothers from other mothers or sisters from different misters yeah, but people are getting tired of "suddenly they're gay" in normally very platonic relationships to score brownie points from people who don't care about the medium and only hype it up for agenda.
For what it's worth, I'm tired of "suddenly they're straight" in M/F relationships that work better platonically, and that's orders of magnitude more common than canon gay relationships in the mainstream.
I like Bayonetta, and I'd object vociferously to anyone who tried to water down the series's mechanical complexity or style; I just... think Bayo had better chemistry with Jeanne, and I had more investment in that relationship. It bothered me that 3 just kind of wrote Jeanne off after a bunch of minigames, that it insisted on Bayo/Luka as the Cosmic OTP and foreclosed any possibility of having her with anyone else in any reality, forever.
I don't think wanting/enjoying queer characters is incompatible with caring about the medium, and I'm not sure where you see a conflict.
It's more normal to ship a man and a woman together because they are biologically compatible. Not to mention inter -relation chemistry is much easier between the two sexes. Homosexual relationships are trumpetted and announced loudly as a spectacle for the player to gawk at. You can brothers from other mothers or sisters from different misters yeah, but people are getting tired of "suddenly they're gay" in normally very platonic relationships to score brownie points from people who don't care about the medium and only hype it up for agenda.
They wouldn't need to be announced loudly if you people didn't deny they existed and act like it was a big deal when you don't. Look at Mercury Gundam. They did announce it as unambiguously as you could, and people still denied it.
