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  • ID: 945411
  • Uploader: WillieGR »
  • Date: about 14 years ago
  • Approver: ultima »
  • Size: 475 KB .jpg (621x1839) »
  • Source: pixiv.net/artworks/19995149 »
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kirisame marisa, remilia scarlet, yakumo yukari, rumia, chen, and 3 more (touhou and 1 more) drawn by dei_shirou

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  • 夢の東方タッグ編742「美徳の価値は」

    ★煽る魔理沙さん
    ★お嬢様の顔は都合により影を落とさせていただいております

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    Taldein
    about 14 years ago
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    I'd say Remi has had just about enough of this...

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    LostAgain
    about 14 years ago
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    If looks could kill...

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    user 344138
    about 14 years ago
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    LostAgain said:
    If looks could kill...

    Well if one was Medusa they could.

    Anyway even though Remi is arguably weaker then Flandre (physically) she will sure now how to use it better. I have a feeling even patchy's plans wouldn't help.

    Also it looks like Yukari is pointing out that Marisa and co. have 3 fouls now.

    Oh ya as has been pointed out in previous strips, Reimu has vanished again.

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    FlashOfSonic
    about 14 years ago
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    Pyrolight_200% said:
    Oh ya as has been pointed out in previous strips, Reimu has vanished again.

    She's still being swung around by Marisa.

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    Andulusi
    about 14 years ago
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    Yeah, this doesn't count as a disappearance. It was weird when she disappeared after the garlic punch because things were happening that she logically should have been reacting to, and it was weird when Remi disappeared after getting iron maiden'd because we had absolutely no idea where she ended up or what kind of condition she was in. In this case there's no problem with Reimu still being exactly where we left her.

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    randomness
    about 14 years ago
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    Remilia just rematerialized. She wasn't visible in the overhead view in the previous comic. And given where she was when she got hit and where she is now, she would have been sent flying along the passage near the red post. You can see she's not there through Kanako's rope thing.

    Andulusi said:
    But yeah, it seems like only one member of Scarlet 75% can exist at a time for some reason.

    So, yeah. Looks like Andulusi was right.

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    FinderX
    about 14 years ago
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    Panel 2
    Berserk mode
    The Terror of Death
    Badass Shinn Aska
    Spawn

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    JakeBob
    about 14 years ago
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    randomness said:
    So, yeah. Looks like Andulusi was right.

    Loading times are a crapshoot.

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    StriderTuna
    about 14 years ago
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    Pyrolight_200% said:
    Well if one was Medusa they could.

    Anyway even though Remi is arguably weaker then Flandre (physically) she will sure now how to use it better. I have a feeling even patchy's plans would help.

    Also it looks like Yukari is pointing out that Marisa and co. have 3 fouls now.

    Oh ya as has been pointed out in previous strips, Reimu has vanished again.

    Remilia may be weaker than Flan, but she's more skilled and sound of mind.

    And they count fouls in this? Where was that in Youmu/Reisen's match?

    Though if Remi gets pissed enough, odds are she'd throw that Iron Maiden at Nitori and the two magicians, forcing Marisa either to let Reimu go or see her allies get clobbered by something they can't stop.

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    user 344138
    about 14 years ago
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    FlashOfSonic said:
    She's still being swung around by Marisa.

    Assumed she had vanished because you can't see any mechanical arms or backpack in the last frame.

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    user 344138
    about 14 years ago
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    StriderTuna said:
    Remilia may be weaker than Flan, but she's more skilled and sound of mind.

    Yup why it could be ugly.

    And they count fouls in this? Where was that in Youmu/Reisen's match?

    Dunno it seems to appear and disappear as needed.

    Though if Remi gets pissed enough, odds are she'd throw that Iron Maiden at Nitori and the two magicians, forcing Marisa either to let Reimu go or see her allies get clobbered by something they can't stop.

    Hopefully unlike Flan in the Moria/200% match Remi will actually go a little batty and it will get fun.

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    Mr.Obake
    about 14 years ago
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    Hmm, getting cocky. Not a good sign..

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    SpecterVonBaren
    about 14 years ago
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    Ah, seems Marisa is giving a speech given the little hat in the text boxes. Perhaps this is the speech someone was wanting earlier, "Are you not entertained?!" or something I think it was.

    Also, I'm almost convinced Marisa is being possessed by Mima now.

    P.S. Can someone explain this eye coloring technique Dei is using here? I'm not sure I understand the purpose of making the top half of the eye all shadowy and black while giving the bottom half color.

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    YSOMN
    about 14 years ago
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    SpecterVonBaren said:
    Also, I'm almost convinced Marisa is being possessed by Mima now.

    Yeah, that's Mima's mischievous smile. I see it probable too.

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    Raigeki
    about 14 years ago
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    Or maybe Marisa is finally becoming like her master. Being possessed is more interesting though, so let's go with that.

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    shadowbringer
    about 14 years ago
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    StriderTuna said:
    Though if Remi gets pissed enough, odds are she'd throw that Iron Maiden at Nitori and the two magicians, forcing Marisa either to let Reimu go or see her allies get clobbered by something they can't stop.

    easy, block the Iron Maiden with Reimu. Though then this will mean that they can't use it again, should Reimu destroy it (also, this would be Remilia's opportunity to tell them that was her intention :p)

    as for Mima controlling Marisa.. I wonder if Reimu's hax intuition will show up here, in that case. Or, she uses Shoryuken on Reimu (or even better, something that only Mima would know about Reimu, like a reference to her past fights), which is a move she has taught to Meiling in this series.

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    Seika
    about 14 years ago
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    CMIIW, this is the first time the Iron Maiden’s face is shown fully ? Looks fatter that I thought

    Pyrolight_200% said:
    Also it looks like Yukari is pointing out that Marisa and co. have 3 fouls now.

    “何割転”
    Don't understand, but I think the organizer is talking about how the show will flow after Marisa’s performance and speech.

    Marisa is talking to all the audience and weaker characters. Marisa and Nitori is just an usual magician and kappa, but they are fighting Hakurei miko and a vampire. Rather than fight fair and square just to be defeated, they choose cheating (tactics, either way) because that's how the weak could stand against the strong.

    But, does the Kirisame Familia also know their part of the show plot Tewi write, or they just run their own show without coordinating with Red 75% ?

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    StriderTuna
    about 14 years ago
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    I don't think the lists that were handed to Yukari is so much a script but a general plan of what to expect.

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    Andulusi
    about 14 years ago
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    Some possible meanings for Yukari's "three":

    - Number of fouls
    - Progress in somebody's script
    - She's counting how many panels Marisa spends ranting
    - Marisa is possessed by Mima, and she's just detected that there are three people in the ring
    - Countdown to something ridiculous
    - Confession that this is all her doing (via reference to forbidden template #3)
    - Something off-topic

    What else...

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    CureMiko
    about 14 years ago
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    Before we go further with the story, should we agree dei to introduce characters that had not made an appearance? Like Touhou Fairy Wars's Mischievous Fairies, Moon Siblings from Silent Sinner Blue, Ibara Kasen from Wild & Horned Hermit & two from the Myouren Temple: Kyouko Kasodani & Yoshika Miyako. Maybe its too late to introduce them & get involved but at least they appear as spectators or having artwork of them.

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    lolin86
    about 14 years ago
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    Bump for translation to stop the flood of suppositions about everything that its going on.

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    dandan
    about 14 years ago
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    oh boy, Remi in the second panel... pain incoming. Lots of pain...

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    Andulusi
    about 14 years ago
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    CureMiko said:
    Before we go further with the story, should we agree dei to introduce characters that had not made an appearance? Like Touhou Fairy Wars's Mischievous Fairies, Moon Siblings from Silent Sinner Blue, Ibara Kasen from Wild & Horned Hermit & two from the Myouren Temple: Kyouko Kasodani & Yoshika Miyako. Maybe its too late to introduce them & get involved but at least they appear as spectators or having artwork of them.

    D-doesn't anybody love Medicine? ;_;

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    Zaku Zelo
    about 14 years ago
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    Andulusi said:
    D-doesn't anybody love Medicine? ;_;

    I don't; it always tastes really chemically. And what does that have to do with Touhou characters?

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    Raigeki
    about 14 years ago
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    Zaku_Zelo said:
    I don't; it always tastes really chemically. And what does that have to do with Touhou characters?

    there's a living doll named Medicine Melancholy and I don't think I've seen her at all in this series

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    Tetsamaru
    about 14 years ago
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    Andulusi said:
    D-doesn't anybody love Medicine? ;_;

    Now heres the question, is it better to be hated yet to be known or it is better not to be known at all? These days Medicine almost doesn't exists at all.

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    shadowbringer
    about 14 years ago
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    Tetsamaru said:
    Now heres the question, is it better to be hated yet to be known or it is better not to be known at all? These days Medicine almost doesn't exists at all.

    this reminds me of two things:
    - Medicine has better stealth-fu than Koishi (at least in this series, where she's never seen)
    - Medicine has better stealth-fu than Koishi, so far, in the series where she actually appears (Gensokyo Tag Tournament), since Koishi has actually gotten more attention than Medi, there. (people may've even forgot that she's participating. Not sure about Eirin fans awaiting for her match, though.)

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    JakeBob
    about 14 years ago
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    Raigeki said:
    there's a living doll named Medicine Melancholy and I don't think I've seen her at all in this series

    Just did a check. None whatsoever.

    Shame, really.

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    StriderTuna
    about 14 years ago
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    Tetsamaru said:
    Now heres the question, is it better to be hated yet to be known or it is better not to be known at all? These days Medicine almost doesn't exists at all.

    I think the biggest thing behind her lack of appearances in fanart and such is that she was only in one game only and not really developed upon. That and Medicine rarely leaves her turf nor does anyone willingly visit.

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    MMaestro
    about 14 years ago
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    CureMiko said:
    Before we go further with the story, should we agree dei to introduce characters that had not made an appearance? Like Touhou Fairy Wars's Mischievous Fairies, Moon Siblings from Silent Sinner Blue, Ibara Kasen from Wild & Horned Hermit & two from the Myouren Temple: Kyouko Kasodani & Yoshika Miyako. Maybe its too late to introduce them & get involved but at least they appear as spectators or having artwork of them.

    The only fairies to appear are Cirno and Daiyousei, so not having the Mischievous Fairies is not that unusual (Lily White hasn't shown up either). The Watatsuki sisters have a bad relationship with pretty much everyone except Eirin, so not having them show up was expected (spectator brawl?). Ibara Kasen (isn't Wild and Horned Hermit only up to chapter 6 or something?), Kyouko Kasodani and Yoshika Miyako are all VERY new, so not having them appear (yet) is perfectly understandable.

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    user 344138
    about 14 years ago
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    Well Zerii uploaded the next one and there seems to be a serious case a "shoot hitting the fan".

    Post translation it seems Marisa might really be heading for the "kerboom, tedious moral" ending.

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    SpecterVonBaren
    about 14 years ago
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    I love this speech!

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    Skribulous
    about 14 years ago
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    YES, YES, YES!!!

    SpecterVonBaren said:
    I love this speech!

    ME TOO

    I LOVE IT SO MUCH I'M TYPING IN ALL CAPS

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    Possessed by Phoenix
    about 14 years ago
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    I like how the title is "Problems?"

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    YuriTenshi
    about 14 years ago
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    SpecterVonBaren said:
    I love this speech!

    THIS. Oh, GOD, THIS!

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    parasectx
    about 14 years ago
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    Andulusi said:
    Some possible meanings for Yukari's "three":

    - Number of fouls
    - Progress in somebody's script
    - She's counting how many panels Marisa spends ranting
    - Marisa is possessed by Mima, and she's just detected that there are three people in the ring
    - Countdown to something ridiculous
    - Confession that this is all her doing (via reference to forbidden template #3)
    - Something off-topic

    What else...

    Turned out, it was "How many times has Nitori collapsed during the fight?".

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    Red Inugami
    almost 14 years ago
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    The translation note says that it means 30% chance of Marisa's speech turning the crowd's support.

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    aListers
    about 13 years ago
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    If you're not cheating, you're not trying.

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    But we're still fighting here!! - Marisa
    Haven't you ever had any painful memories of being powerless at all!? - Marisa
    Problems?
    Episode 742: The Value of a Virtue From the Artist's Pixiv page.
    Fight fair and square, and then lose? - Marisa
    To hell with that!! - Marisa
    Are you people getting it!!? - Marisa
    We're just an ordinary magician and an ordinary kappa! - Marisa
    And our opponents are a Hakurei shrine maiden and a vampire!! - Marisa
    Won't we be decimated at once by default!? - Marisa
    We're struggling and fighting!! - Marisa
    Say something, all of ya!! - Marisa
    I'll show you people how the weak fight against the strong!!
    Cheating?
    If you want to say it, go ahead!
    Cheating is a compliment for me!
    ... what do you think are the odds that she'll fail? Nanwari, in this case, means ratio out of ten. Thus, Yukari is saying 30% chance of failing here.
    So that's what she's going to do...
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